"John and me" vs "John and I"+ "who" and "whom"?

<p>yo guys can u help me out w/ what i listed in the thread title?</p>

<p>is it correct to say "x and me were in the ocean" vs "x and I were in the ocean"? </p>

<p>wat about "from whom did you get that plastic baggie" (is that correct?) or "i got it from a person (who/whom) sells strange things" (which one is correct?)</p>

<p>i was tryna make hypothetical examples. i can usually get 800's in writing mainly cuz these two rules arent usually tested, but it can't hurt 2 ask...</p>

<p>John and I were in the ocean.</p>

<p>From whom did you get the plastic baggie? (or who did you get that plastic baggie from?) I got it from a person who sells strange things.</p>

<p>^ missemily516 is right about all but one. Even when the preposition is moved to the end, the objective case for the interrogative pronoun should still be used to yield:</p>

<p>“Whom did you get that plastic baggie from?”</p>

<p>When trying to figure out cases like the first one, remove “John and” from your sentence and see which sounds correct. Would you say “Me was in the ocean” or “I was in the ocean”? It’s the same whether or not John was also there :slight_smile: This also works for object position – You would say, “He spoke to Mary and me” because if you remove “and Mary”, you get the correct sentence “He spoke to me.”</p>

<p>For the second case, try answering the question. Would you answer, “I got it from him” or “I got it from he”? “Him” is like “whom” (can be the object of a preposition), and “he” is like “who” (can be the subject of a sentence). Use the form that would be correct in the answer. This one is trickier, because as missemily pointed out, when the word does not directly follow the preposition (from) people often use “who” instead of “whom” – English is gradually losing the who/whom distinction, so maybe your kids won’t have to worry about this question on their SATs.</p>

<p>^ To clarify, however, the grammatically correct form in America is still “Whom did you get it from.”</p>

<p>The “drop the extra stuff and sound it out” technique is alright for most situations, but it’s better to think about it in this way:</p>

<p>Pronoun subjects: I, We, You, He, She, They, It, Who</p>

<p>Pronoun objects: Me, Us, You, Him, Her, Them, It, Whom</p>

<p>When the pronoun is doing something (or more precisely, is preforming the action of a verb phrase), use the appropriate pronoun from the first group. If the pronoun is not performing the action of a verb phrase, use a pronoun from the second list.</p>

<p>There are no exceptions to this method that I can think of right now.</p>