Johns Hopkins vs Columbia

<p>Which would fit more better?
I am looking for
--a close knit student body....a lot of activities ON-campus
--A well-rounded education that I can design
--An undergrad degree that will be respected (possibly in international studies). I will probably apply to law schools.
--A semi-calm city.
--Attention to undergrad students.</p>

<p>in all would it hurt to attend one over the other?</p>

<p>am looking for
–a close knit student body…a lot of activities ON-campus - Johns Hopkins
–A well-rounded education that I can design - both
–An undergrad degree that will be respected (possibly in international studies). I will probably apply to law schools. - Columbia is more prestigeous, though not to a degree that should matter that much.
–A semi-calm city - neither city is calm at all, NYC is safer
–Attention to undergrad students - about equal I think</p>

<p>Which would fit more better?
I am looking for
–a close knit student body…a lot of activities ON-campus: Columbia is pretty strong here.
–A well-rounded education that I can design: well-rounded, Columbia for sure, more major options as well.
–An undergrad degree that will be respected (possibly in international studies). I will probably apply to law schools: columbia.
–A semi-calm city: aniger gets it right.
–Attention to undergrad students: columbia pretty handedly. jhu is still stuck in the 1890s in many respects.</p>

<p>Looking at the criteria you’ve given, I’m not really sure why you are considering either school that seriously. To me a “semi-calm” city means one that is not an overwhelming metropolis, which eliminates both NYC and Baltimore (though I might be able to see an interpretation that considers Baltimore to be “semi-calm,” whatever that is). As both are larger universities in urban areas, neither have extremely close-knit student bodies (relative to most other schools that is) or top-notch undergraduate attention. That’s not necessarily a bad thing–I applied to both schools as a prospective major somewhere in the liberal arts–but if attention is what you seek then you might want to look elsewhere. As far as international relations goes, both schools are good for graduate studies, but not necessarily for UG. JHU has an international relations major, but it has pretty extensive requirements that take away from your ability to design a well-rounded curriculum and would require an early commitment from someone who is only “possibly” interested. Columbia, though it has a fantastical graduate school, offers no international relations/studies major, even as it has been ranked as a top UG school in this field numerous times. Aside from these factors, both schools would be fantastic preparation for law school (edge goes to Columbia).</p>

<p>Overall they are both great schools, but I’m not really sure if either is for you. If you can clarify what you mean by “semi-calm city,” it would make a big difference in determining whether a small LAC or urban university is right for you.</p>

<p>Answer: None of the above.</p>

<p>–a close knit student body…a lot of activities ON-campus:
Columbia and JHU, compared to their peers, do not do well here.</p>

<p>–A well-rounded education that I can design:
Columbia is pretty ridged with the core, JHU with some major requirements. </p>

<p>–An undergrad degree that will be respected (possibly in international studies). I will probably apply to law schools.:
Columbia might have less grade deflation and has more prestige. But in the end law schools care about grades and LSATS. Students any top school will do equally well. </p>

<p>–A semi-calm city.:
Columbia is in NYC which is the least calm city in America (yes I know its in morningside heights but its still manic), JHU is not in a very nice city.</p>

<p>–Attention to undergrad students.:
Neither is known for this.</p>

<p>I think you would be much better off at Brown, Georgetown, Dartmouth, Duke, Amherst, Northwestern, WashU, Yale, and Princeton. Why did you pick these two? They do seem sort of the opposite of what you’re looking for.</p>

<p>Morningside Heights is a pretty calm area of New York.</p>

<p>not only is morningside heights pretty calm, but columbia is practically secluded from the city (within its own campus).
if one chooses, the city is there.
if not, its not that difficult to avoid.</p>

<p>Columbia is overall a more distinguished undergraduate school, and NYC is alot safer and considerably more vibrant than Baltimore.</p>

<p>I applied ED to Johns Hopkins and got in.
I was just wondering if this was a misguided choice. I love JHU but in case I don’t feel comfortable there…I will transfer. Columbia was my second choice. Followed by Georgetown.</p>

<p>You should seriously consider a transfer to Brown over Columbia. Georgetown could work, too, but it sounds like Brown matches EXACTLY everything you’ve specified.</p>

<p>That is to say, if you even still want to transfer. You might find you didn’t quite know what you wanted out of an education in your senior year of high school.</p>

<p>I second the opinions above, it doesn’t seem like Columbia is a good fit. Neither is JHU. Brown seems perfect, I also agree Northwestern, Georgetown, Duke and other schools with real communities are probably a better fit. Seems sort of strange to me, given what you have said, that Columbia and JHU were your top two choices.</p>

<p>not to be a ■■■■■ or anything but more better?</p>

<p>Remember brown is need-aware for transfers.</p>

<p>–a close knit student body…a lot of activities ON-campus: Columbia does really well in this respect. They’ve got a lot going on on campus.
–A well-rounded education that I can design: Columbia offers the famous core-curriculum which is the definition of well rounded, but you won’t be designing it.
–An undergrad degree that will be respected (possibly in international studies). I will probably apply to law schools. : Columbia as well. Johns Hopkins is a great school, but prestige-wise it doesn’t match up to Columbia. Not by much, but still.
–A semi-calm city.: Neither. However, if you HAD to pick one, Columbia. Baltimore is crazy dangerous. The area around Columbia has gotten much, much safer.
–Attention to undergrad students.: Johns Hopkins. Columbia is notorious for basically neglecting their students and being generally unhelpful.</p>

<p>I second some of the opinions here that neither school seems to fit the bill based on what you’re looking for.</p>

<p>From my friends at Columbia and JHU, neither particularly excel at campus spirit compared to some of their peers.</p>