Juniors: Possible good bets for next year?

<p>Rochester Institute of Technology is on the list????</p>

<p>Oh my, the NACAC list is getting very interesting.</p>

<p>Smith is still looking for some transfers, according to the list.</p>

<p>As pointed out earlier on this thread, all schools that may list on NACAC have likely not done so as yet, but here are three schools that jumped out at me. . .</p>

<p>Two Midwestern LACs with fine faculties that pay a lot of attention to individual students and their academic needs and interests. . .Knox (IL) and Augsburg (MN).</p>

<p>One Mideastern Uni with some excellent departments (English, Philosophy, Nursing) and a whole bunch of very good departments. . .University of Pittsburgh.</p>

<p>We didn't look at Redlands- a friend is from the town and hates it ( isn't very diverse) but a sister of a friend is attending and loves Redlands
We will definitely keep it in mind for D #2</p>

<p>We wanted DD to look at U of Redlands on our recent CA college trip. She was less than inspired by their mailings, and their website. She REFUSED to go. Of course, this is the same kid who refused to get out of the car at one school last summer because she didn't like the buildings. SO...not a definitive source....but an opinion.</p>

<p>An interesting list.
I wonder if there are many schools with the opposite problem - too many kids coming?</p>

<p>Folks, if you would have a kid who might like to go on to grad school, Interesteddad has posted a fascinating list of the top schools for Phd production on the Swarthmore sub-forum.</p>

<p>asdad, Univ of Mich had this problem last year. After a change in the UM undergraduate application (they required additional essays, etc making the application longer and more involved), more students than usual accepted their admissions offers. There was fast scrambling to find housing for freshman, even turning buildings used for family housing into undergraduate housing. Admissions hypothesized that the lengthier app brought about more "self-selection" earlier in the admissions process. If the student had decided to spend all that time applying they darn well were going to come.</p>

<p>As the list fills out, I think that several interesting trends/patterns emerge in my mind. </p>

<p>1 - some well-regarded schools that focus on eningeering/science/techology appear on the list, including:</p>

<ul>
<li>Illinois Institute of Technology</li>
<li>Clarkson University</li>
<li>Rochester Institute of Technology</li>
</ul>

<p>2 - more state schools than I would have expected, including:</p>

<ul>
<li>University of Arizona</li>
<li>University of Idaho</li>
<li>University of Maine</li>
<li>University of New Mexico</li>
<li>Texas Tech University</li>
<li>University of Oregon</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
<li>University of Pittsburgh</li>
<li>various SUNYs</li>
</ul>

<p>3 - a fair number of single-sex institutions, given the few number of these institutions in existence, including:</p>

<ul>
<li>Mills College</li>
<li>Wabash College</li>
<li>Hollins</li>
<li>Randolph-Macon</li>
<li>Smith College (accepting transfer applications)</li>
<li>Sweet Briar (accepting transfer applications)</li>
</ul>

<p>4 - a handful of very good (in my opinion) liberal arts colleges, including:</p>

<ul>
<li>Hendrix</li>
<li>Goucher</li>
<li>New College of Florida (perhaps the biggest surprise to me)</li>
<li>Illinois College</li>
<li>Knox</li>
<li>McDaniel</li>
<li>Alma</li>
<li>Houghton</li>
<li>St. Lawrence</li>
<li>Hiram</li>
<li>Susquehanna</li>
<li>Southwestern</li>
<li>College of the Atlantic</li>
<li>Calvin</li>
<li>Clark University</li>
</ul>

<p>It seems to me that good, but not top tier schools in less-than-ideal locations are having a more difficult time filling their classes. It also strikes me that a number of these schools may have failed either to: 1) really define the type of student they are looking for; or 2) the type of student they are looking for is declining (e.g. single sex schools; mainstream religious schools--Calvin, Houghton, University of Dallas, University of San Diego, Gonzaga, Bellarmine, Willamette).</p>

<p>Ice, Willamette is not a religious school. It's an excellent LAC. But otherwise you are right on the money.</p>

<p>Makam,
The list only refers to schools that still have open seats. At some schools, it may be that not enough kids applied. But at most of the better schools on the list, such as Fordham, they are there not because of their application numbers or their relative selectivity but because they didn't achieve the YIELD they expected (i.e., number of accepted students that decided to go elsewhere). This is a problem these days because many kids are applying to more schools than in the past, so some of these schools are really having to scramble to convince the kids they do admit to attend. Being on the list is absolutely NO REFLECTION on the quality of these schools.</p>

<p>Next year, many of these schools will work harder to attract applicants, they may admit a few more borderline students, and they also may throw money at more students (if they can afford to) to make sure their classes will be filled. That is why I call them "good bets for next year." Show a demonstrated interest in these schools and you probably will have an edge.</p>

<p>I am sure they all have a "system", but it must get interesting when so many students are admitted and they are trying to get a certain % from the admits. Anything over or under would be a problem. I would guess that it would be better to be under than over?</p>

<p>Better under than over? It depends. There are things that colleges can do to deal with overenrollment - for example, they can send letters to admitted students offering a 1-year deferment, encouraging them to take a gap year. Or rent local apartments or hotel rooms to provide temporary housing. It really depends on how much over or under they are. When you consider that a college can always go to its waitlist, it is a surprise to seem of these schools on the list. </p>

<p>For those with openings for transfers, my guess would be that is for specific majors only. That wouldn't show up on the general list, but I think that would be the circumstances where they would be seeking transfers: i.e., not enough students filling their upper level classes in some less popular majors. But that's just speculation on my part... I could be way off base.</p>

<p>I guess I was thinking of kids on waitlists that would want to attend.</p>

<p>I think the fact that the NACAC list is long every year means that schools would rather be OVER rather than UNDER when it comes to yield. You can always stuff a few kids in lounges and call them dorm rooms, but empty dorm rooms don't make money. </p>

<p>Anyone still on a waitlist for one of these schools should call them immediately, mention the NACAC list, and ask to be given first consideration.</p>