Just how important are the class rankings?

<p>:P. My SAT score is 300+ Higher then yours.</p>

<p>But then my GPA (rank) is way lower then yours (I am only in top quartile)...</p>

<p>hmmm... something is wrong.</p>

<p>so u had a 600? that is kind of low isnt it?
hehe.... i wonder why, perhaps u never did any work... my gpa is a 2.9</p>

<p>you were ranked 5 with a gpa of 2.9... my unweighted gpa is higher then that :P...</p>

<p>well, i have a better name than damit... and i am jokin about the GPA, hmm i geuss the 4+ are very gullible</p>

<p>i know all this chitchating and arguing is fun while you are answering on someone else's thread............no i hope it isn't
so back to the original question: with so many people having identical GPAs because they took the right courses, how important is the rank? my school had a senior this year who gotinto stanford and she didn't have all As on her transcript....in fact she has couple Bs and our school is not that competitive in the state of california either. I think she barely took 3 or 4 AP tests and classes...same thing with other Yale admits from my school the year before. They didn't have perfect SAT scores........so What exactly determines your admission..? with some Bs, these people probably didn't rank too high......</p>

<p>i am rank 1/528</p>

<p>rank 1 baby! :D</p>

<p>i help tutor kids because I believe I have been endowed as a smart person by God. it's only good karma to give back!
try to get the best rank.</p>

<p>man, admissions is a crap shute.</p>

<p>To answer the original question: rankings are somewhat important, but not end-all important. For example, if you were ranked like 300/400 or something, I would be worried, but in the top 20 so places, less, especially if you have shown that you took challenging classes/serious commitments and did well in them. Whoever said colleges look at transcripts for a reason is right, because GPA and ranking don't always reflect the true abilities of a student.</p>

<p>Rankings are not always a fair way to compare, even at the same school! It really does depend on how the rank is calculated. At my school, they only take 4 years of English, 3 years of math, 3 sciences (1 physics, 1 bio, 1 chem...so basically you could just take the honor intro classes, no AP, and still be #1), and 2 foreign language. The result of this is that we have 8 valedictorians, though they are certainly not all equal. Also, I have taken the most AP/Honors classes out of anybody in my class, and made all A's in them, yet I'm still only #11/386 because I didn't take honors english my freshmem year (totally screwed me over, ranking wise). It doesn't matter that I've taken all these extra AP math and science classes because they don't count for ranking. Still, I got into "better" colleges (one ivy and two top LAC's) than almost everyone in my class, including the valedictorians, so no, even if you're not val/sal, it won't kill you if everything else looks good.</p>

<p>I am ranked top 25% in a top 100 school...
is that bad???</p>

<p>Variance depends on your courseload, what's your schedule</p>

<p>i know at UMich, you get a a ton of points for being rank 1... so it all depends. i think the Ivies do a point based system..</p>

<p>like a perfect 1600 is 20 points and a perfect 4.0/rank 1 is 20 points.</p>

<p>^Now thats a flawed system. How about if you were ranked #1 out of 5 students in your class at a country school? Compare that to #2 out of 1200. There lies the flaw, I think colleges look at PERCENTILE not RANK specifically.</p>

<p>or they could just look at the applicant as a whole... factor in the essays too, recommendations and <em>gasp</em> actually looking at what the applicant has to offer beyond numbers</p>

<p>Class rank is more important at schools that colleges don't know well. At a top high school top 30% gets into ivies, at others only the top couple of kids.</p>

<p>i have over 10 APs total</p>

<p>i am aiming for stanford, princeton, Cornell, Columbia, UC Berkeley, UCLA, and few other UCs...... and my rank in school is about top 10%.......not a very competitive school either. If my test scores (SAT I and II and AP) and E.C are excellent, would the ranking bring down my chances to these particular schools...? please reply</p>

<p>reply ne one...? im asking specifically towards these schools so its a different question</p>

<p>well.. if its a different question, should u have a different thread?</p>

<p>ok, i'm not sure how the ranking system works. Is it just in ur own skool (in which case other skools' ranks don't matter at all) or is it a rank of the entire state or sumthing?</p>