Just looking for some Christian values...

<p>SansSerif…Sorry if my post seemed targeted to your response…it wasn’t. I agree you were very respectful in your comments and had great insights about how we value others and how we can be respectful even when disagreeing. I was simply concerned with some other comments that seemed to berate Gospelgirl for having beliefs that differed from a more “open-minded” belief system. No disrespect intended!</p>

<p>I wasn’t “berating” anyone… I sincerely hope that wasn’t directed as me… And she pretty much did say that homosexuals have no morals, by saying that promoting homosexuality shows a lack of morals. That’s not even relevant though… I know what she said though, whether or not you care to admit it – my point is, I sincerely hope you don’t think I was berating anyone… I wasn’t, I just really hate to think that some people find gay people to be well, less of people simply because they’re attracted to the same sex… The difference between a heterosexual person and a homosexual person really is no more than that of the difference between someone who prefers sports cars to SUVs, or rap to opera, or cats to dogs… I’m willing to bet that if OP ever met a “gay” person (assuming OP hasn’t) OP would quickly realize this. I didn’t mean to berate anyone… Merely to try to help someone realize that people are people, regardless of sexuality.</p>

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I’m sorry to get off topic, but your comparison of homosexuality to crime is ludicrous. Bank robbers and drug dealers harm other people by participating in their activities, homosexuals do not. Also, in everyday life bank robbers and drug dealers who are known to society are subject to, well, ARREST. Homosexuals who are known to society are subject to harassment and discrimination. They aren’t trying to be a special protected class, just as protected as just about everyone else.</p>

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Well, Jesus didn’t say anything about the first two, and downright advocated the third. Honestly, I don’t see why all Christians aren’t communists.</p>

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There are Bible verses indicating the early church operated on a system that today we would call “socialist,” but in the interest of not getting myself banned I’ll won’t go any further.</p>

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This is one of those perpetuated myths about biblical teachings. Indeed there is the notion of sharing and re-distributing wealth as an inescapable tenet of the Christian life. </p>

<p>But there is one equally inescapable difference between socialism and Christianity in this. In the former, re-distribution is mandated under the law by our “Caesars”, conveyed by begrudging taxpayers. (Doubt this? Name just one who chooses to pay more than his tax bill.) And the punishment for failure to comply belongs to Caesar and his minions.</p>

<p>In the latter Christianity, it is done voluntarily as a function of a grateful, transformed and obedient heart. And any penalty for failure to comply is God’s. </p>

<p>The first is taking. The latter is giving. VERY different concepts and the results are equally dissimilar. Keep studying and learning, and correcting when it is called for.</p>

<p>Satan is sly in how he twists God’s Word for his own devlish purposes.</p>

<p>If you have the grades and test scores, go to Wheaton College outside of Chicago. You will feel happy and safe there.</p>

<p>Thanks for saying that, Whistle Pig. I often wonder how people confuse voluntary giving with governmental taxation.</p>

<p>It’s hard to argue that the ideal world of Jesus was communistic. Of course, he never supported violence or coercion to attain such a world, so it would be most accurate to call him a peaceful social revolutionary. He tried to convince the rich to give everything they had to the poor, have every human being treat each other with dignity, and he preached against the organized religions and government policies that kept the poor down.</p>

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I didn’t say Jesus supported governmental taxation. I said communism. The two are very different.</p>

<p>He certainly would have condemned any alternative to caring for every medical need of each and every human being, regardless of if they could pay. No?</p>

<p>She can always attend Bob Jones University, but would have to adhere to STRICT rules-lights off at 11:30pm, having to attend a mandatory church service every Sunday, not being able to wear pants, no secular music, that sort of thing…</p>

<p>Is this a real post? I admit to doubting its authenticity, but I would recommend exposing yourself to some immoral liberals/atheists/socialists. You may learn that Christianity does not have an exclusive claim on morality.</p>

<p>I have some friends who have attended Grove City, Mt. Vernon Nazarene and Malone - all Christian schools in Ohio (sorry- Grove City is in PA) where you would feel comfortable. I have had several friends attend Eastern Mennonite University in Virginia - though with their belief in pacifism and social justice, may be a little too liberal for you. </p>

<p>Good luck.</p>