Kaiser Permanente SOM in Pasadena, CA has received it preliminary accreditation from the LCME.
It’s probably too late in the cycle for KPSOM to take applications for a Fall 2019 class, but it will definitely be accepting applications for the 2019-20 cycle
This and other new med schools will further squeeze the rotation opportunities to the DO and Caribbean students. Obviously, KPsom will use KP hospitals for its rotation, this is in direct competition with Northstate and others. Strangely “others” could be students from UCSF! Because personally I was being examined by a student from UCSF on rotation during my annual checkup visit.
@artloversplus Interesting to hear a student was doing your physical. I would have thought it takes at least a resident.
Students gotta learn those clinical skills somehow!
Med students can do physical exams (including invasive exams like prostate or pelvic exams) so long as they’re working under the supervision of a physician/resident/PA/NP. At med schools that have early clinical exposure programs, this can start as soon as MS 1 or 2.
There’s an entire standardized test (STEP 2CS/LEVEL 2PE) that only tests hands-on physical exam skills which med students need to pass at the end of MS3.
@texaspg
Yes, I was examined by a student. But my regular dr came in right after his examine and did a more thorough examine, in addition to repeat what the student just did. And the student could not prescribe or renew any medications. Total examine time was over an hour, I thought it was excessive.
Med students are very slow because they have no idea what they’re doing.
Humor, but with a kernel of truth–
[STUDY: Patient Satisfaction Scores Skyrocket When Patient First Seen By ‘That One Really Slow Med Student’](https://gomerblog.com/2018/08/study-patient-satisfaction/)
[Zuckerberg Survives 10 Hours of Questions from First-Year Medical Student](Zuckerberg Survives 10 Hours of Questions from First-Year Medical Student | GomerBlog)
And the 13th “Rule” from House God states:
^^^How true it is!
The student who examined me was VERY slow, I was surprised that he did not take out a book for reference. 
I won’t want to be examined by a MS1, UCFS or otherwise, it would be too torturous!
It is not only medical students who are slow. I worked in the outpatient department of a very large teaching hospital and we had to adjust our schedules every July when new residents started. I remember one year clinic staff came to our office at 6pm (clinic should have ended at around 5pm) asking for coffee because the neurosurgery resident who was on day one of a seven year residency was taking two hours to examine each patient and still had several patients to see.
^^So true
D1 says PGY1 teaches you to think like a doctor; PGY2 teaches you to think like a doctor but much faster.
Perhaps some patients’ satisfaction may be higher with slower medical students and residents because one of the complaints that some patients have with medical care is that physicians are too rushed in short appointment time windows.
The article linked is humor/parody.
@WayOutWestMom I tried searching for the article in mentioned in the blog but could not locate it. I think it might motivate some of the faculty spend more time with medical students
I look at above this way….I think that when students graduate from med school they may know a whole lot of stuff but they don’t know anything. There’s a reason that after graduating the powers to be have newly minted MDs undergo 3-5 years of supervised training (aka residency) in one of what 20 med specialties, even more if the subspecialize (aka fellowship.) Even if a resident can obtain a state license after say a year of residency, I view this as state is only saying that in state’s opinion the resident has achieved a minimal level of competence.
And I wouldn’t limit my view to just med students, I’d say the same thing about dental, law students as well. It takes time/real life experiences beyond 3-4 years of school to gain a level of “street smarts” needed to function in one’s chosen career.
@WayOutWestMom
I didn’t know gomerblog existed… some very funny stuff
My attorney has said exactly the same thing. Freshly minted lawyers probably ought to have a 2 year apprenticeship-type period before they’re allowed to practice independently.
Gomerblog is enormously funny. I like to check in with it every couple of months.
If you like medical parody with a side of education, you can also watch ZDogg MD videos on YouTube. He’s a singing UCSF/Stanford trained IM/hospitalist who takes on a wide variety of medical topics.