<p>which would be a better minor?</p>
<p>There are degrees in leadership?</p>
<p>Definitely go with leadership. Anyone can do math (and who really needs it, anyway? isn’t that why we have calculators?), but effective leadership is rarer than 24-karat diamonds.</p>
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<p>I’m sorry that I’m kindda slow… but is this a joke?</p>
<p>Minors don’t matter at all career-wise. Also, airbag, was that a joke? The internet isn’t a good medium for sarcasm.</p>
<p>Why not both? If you have to choose one, leadership is the choice. And minors might not get you the job, One, but if the job was between two people, both with the same degree, but one had a minor in something like leadership…it could be the tie breaker.</p>
<p>leadership? seriously? math should be a no brainer. you get leadership experience by being leader of a club or a team or something, not some bs classes about management styles. showing that you can handle math will not only make you stand out, but you’ll learn some beautiful, fundamental truths about the universe :)</p>
<p>a minor in leadership sounds like a load of bs. If I was hiring someone and saw they had that minor I would throw out their resume immediately.</p>
<p>I can already see the syllabus and class objectives for the first course in the “Leadership” major: learn how to build a fire in the woods, locating the north star in case you get lost in the wilderness, save a kitten from a tree, how to tie a knot, etc.</p>
<p>Math. This should not even be a dilemma.</p>
<p>why would i be joking? the OP clearly is in a sticky dilemma, and i was merely offering my opinion that studying how to lead people is a much better usage of his or her time than studying how to do something like math that is completely obsolete. gosh, some people on these boards just can’t appreciate alternate perspectives!</p>
<p>Leadership is not something that can be taught, necessarilly. True leadership comes with experience, knowledge, and respect not earned or learned in a classroom, or just manifests itself as an “it” factor in certain people. To think a class can teach this is, IMO, silly. This is probably why rheidzan thought you were joking.</p>
<p>On the other hand math is by no means obsolete. While it is true anyone can do it not many do, and this is usually to their demise. Not understand math by leaders is what got us into this whole financial mess we are in right now. Math is everywhere, and it’s not going away.</p>
<p>It wasn’t the opinion that bothered me, but the calculator part. A machine cannot come up creative financial models…</p>
<p>airbag, you might not need to do much math if you are selling t-shirts on a street corner. If this is your career goal, then more power to you. The bigger the company the more important math becomes. Finance uses math to calculate risk to make balanced portfolios. Logistics uses massive computer networks in order to minimize the cost of distributing and transporting goods (linear algebra). Do you honestly think someone sits down at a desk and through guess work designs airline schedules? Operations research needs no explanation.</p>
<p>Japher, I’ll agree if you mean arithmetic, which an elementary schooler can do. Most people suck at math. Taking an intro level statistics or calculus class doesn’t make someone good.</p>
<p>I can’t believe this is even an argument. A minor in leadership? How does this not smell like bs? Does this entail doing trust falls and completing an obstacle course? At least with a math minor shows you have some level of quantitative ability.</p>
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<p>Sucking at math is only a matter of effort. I think most people suck at math because they never really give it a shot.</p>
<p>However, by “can do it” I mean it as much in the sense that anyone “can” run a marathon, but they don’t. Similarlly, I believe not everyone “can” lead a company or an organization. Taking this notion to extremes; studying leadership would be akin to studying gifted children. While you can study their tactics and outcomes it won’t make you able to be like them.</p>
<p>I’d ask people who are pursuing the leadership minor what it they are doing. Maybe they stduy great leaders? </p>
<p>How much math have you taken, maxellis? Do you know what the math minor entails?</p>
<p>for a math minor I would have to take one extra statistics course and two 3 cr. 300 level math classes. I am taking statistical techniques this summer and calc 2 next summer, regardless of if I get the math minor or not. I was pretty good at math in high school (completed calc BC and physics C).</p>
<p>Leadership minor has two types of classes. Leading in business and leading in the military. I would have to take both types of classes.</p>
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recruiters love good math backgrounds.</p>
<p>Leadership sounds laughable. I can not take that seriously as a major as it seems like a huge load of BS; it’s like saying you have a degree in experience! I would do neither if I were you.</p>
<p>My school has a leadership program which actually makes you take on a project(some kind of volunteer nonsense) and you get evaluated somehow. God knows I wouldn’t take it, but it’s not like it’s just classes. </p>
<p>I know employers at my school pushed for the silly program. I think they are wrong, just as I think it’s silly of them to care if someone organized a bake sale for the Finance Club…but it is what it is.</p>