<p>the Ivy title is at this point a self-fulfilling, self-feeding, virtuous cycle of prestige building. I love it!</p>
<p>Older schools such as the Ivies have a greater endowment, better established research programs, and, often, better facilities, all of which attract prestigious faculty members. The reputation, as ilovebagels says, is somewhat of a self-feeding cycle (many people apply to Ivies just because “it’s an Ivy”). While HYP are arguably the best around, having the highest endowment and sponsoring many of the better programs, each Ivy (as well as many other top schools) boost excellent departments of there own. You go to Columbia for journalism, for example. Princeton is a choice destination for pure math, but Brown’s applied math department is one of the best in the country. So while there are “more” and “less” prestigious Ivies, the whole thing is somewhat relative.</p>
<p>That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard - Brown PLME for example is one of the best in the nation. Also I second the Cornell Hotel managament “<em>cough</em>”</p>
<p>Why is it that these threads keep popping up here on this board??? Brown is an Ivy, and all Ivies are incredibly good schools. It would be an honor just to get into one imho.</p>
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<p>haha this is so true. and I love it too!</p>
<p>If you need to concern yourself with what others are saying about Brown’s status, Brown is likely not the best place for you. If you are concerned with outcomes from a Brown education, look at stats on med school and professional school acceptance rates. If prestige is based on competitiveness gaining acceptance, than Brown’s class of 2013 rate of just over 10% should please you–unless you compare to Princeton’s which was at an all time low of 7%!</p>
<p>I thought Penn held that title.</p>
<p>“Least Pretentious” Ivy League School?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>As shown by the revealed preferences data, Brown wins against Dartmouth, Columbia, Penn, and Cornell for cross-admits. Thats it. End of story. </p>
<p>Thus, the order is as follows (in terms of humanities):</p>
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<li><p>Harvard=Yale=Princeton=Stanford</p></li>
<li><p>Brown</p></li>
<li><p>Columbia</p></li>
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<p>4.Dartmouth</p>
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<li><p>Cornell</p></li>
<li><p>UPenn (Excepting Wharton) Anyone arguing UPenn should be ranked higher…lets be serious here. Look in the mirror and recite the words Penn State to yourself.</p></li>
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what do you mean, recite the words penn state to yourself ???</p>
<p>being an international student, i would say that upenn and cornell are at the ‘bottom’ om the ivy scale, however, from personal experience, fewer people know what dartmouth is than people who know what upenn or cornell is so… </p>
<p>either way, HYP is the highest, cornell/penn is the lowest… who cares ?</p>
<p>Yes!!! Another “let’s argue about how the Ivies rank in comparison to each other” thread. I love these threads. Man, I was starting to worry. It’s been almost a week and a half since the last one.</p>
<p>Cornell. Case closed.</p>
<p>to people who say UPenn is the lowest, it’s won six Nobel Prizes in the 2000s (more than Princeton, Yale and Stanford) </p>
<p>Edmund S. Phelps (Economics, 2006)
Edward C. Prescott (Economics, 2004)
Alan MacDiarmid (Chemistry, 2000)
Alan J. Heeger (Chemistry, 2000)
Raymond Davis (Physics, 2002)
Ahmed Zewail (Chemistry, 1999)
Hideki Shirakawa (Chemistry, 2000)</p>
<p>and the University of Pennsylvania has been ranked in US News between #4 and #7 overall since 1997 and fourth in the ivy league.</p>
<p>disclaimer- I am not affiliated with Penn.</p>
<p>I don’t think that there is a “least prestigious” school in the ivy league; they all have their strong points with equally strong students. These threads are getting pretty ridiculous: in fact, i think people post these threads just to laugh at the naivete/immaturity of the community as they take things like this seriously.</p>
<p>cmburns, prestige and ranking don’t necessarily correlate.</p>
<p>HYP</p>
<p>Columbia/UPenn</p>
<p>Cornell/Brown/Dartmouth</p>
<p>Penn is in no way shape or form more prestigious than Dartmouth and Brown. Dartmouth and Brown’s acceptance rate is half that of Penn and Cornell’s/ At my high school we had kids walk into Penn and Cornell that were rejected from Brown and Dartmouth.</p>
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Columbia
Dartmouth
Brown/Cornell/Penn</p>
<p>admitone, well at my school we had just the opposite: kids were rejected from cornell and accepted to columbia.
Since Cornell is a much bigger school than the rest of the ivies it is only natural that they accept more students, and accordingly based on the opinion on cc that prestige and acceptance rates are inversely proportional, cornell and upenn are thought of as “lesser” schools. Moreover, prestige does not equal academic quality, rather the public perception which is often very narrow.</p>
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<p>Dartmouth is ranked 11 and I’m too lazy to scroll down far enough to find Brown. Penn is tied with Caltech at 6</p>
<p>Since we’re giving empirical evidence, nobody from my school in California applied to Brown because it’s not worth paying the private school tuition when they could just go to Berkeley</p>
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<p>hahah ***? get your numbers right buddy</p>
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<p>The opinion on CC is based on U.S. news rankings, not acceptance rates. Otherwise Caltech and UChicago would be considered very weak schools</p>