Leaving "traditional" university to go to music conservatory?

THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY LONG, but I’ve been thinking this over for the past 3 years and it’s gotten to the point where it’s keeping me up at night. I’ve been trying to weigh the pros and cons, but I feel like I might be missing some things because I don’t have a ton of life experience. Here’s more or less what’s going on:

I’m in my fall semester of my 3rd year at a very expensive, fairly well-ranked private university. I received a scholarship that paid all of my tuition and about half of my room and board (so it wasn’t “free,” I still have a decent amount of loans). I knew I’d get a decent amount of scholarship money based on a) my demographic- female, mixed race, and b) the major I chose- a STEM major. That’s why I applied to CS, and that’s how I spent my freshman year. Within a couple weeks, I knew I hated my major- but given university policy, I wouldn’t be able to change my major until after my second semester of freshman year. I had to stick it out, keep taking CS classes. My GPA tanked.

Let’s rewind a little. I studied piano for over a decade. I refused to practice at first (as children do, I suppose), but eventually, I began to love it. I’ve never been good at expressing my emotions normally, and piano became a way for me to do that. I was classically trained, and I doubt that anyone could say that my teachers were ever ‘lax’ with criticism- in other words, it wasn’t easy. With academic studies, I’d find every excuse I could not to study- too tired, too hungry, too sore- but with the piano, I didn’t notice much. I once played for a couple hours, when I was angry, and I realized afterwards that (THIS IS TMI, SORRY) half of my toenail had broken off and was bleeding from when I kicked a wall before playing the piano. I was a teenager, I had a temper, I don’t know what to tell you. If I needed to practice for something, I went into a phase where I could sit at the piano and practice for 5, 6 hours straight, take a break, then practice more. Probably not the best for my physical health, but my point is, I’ve never been able to do that with studying. Now that I’m looking back, I’ve noticed that ever since I had started to enjoy piano for myself (since I was about 9, we’ll say), all the people I’ve looked up to were composers or pianists. I didn’t look twice at Marie Curie, even though she’s great and all, because Martha Argerich was who inspired me. And yet I applied for a science degree, just for the money.

Going forward to my high school years, I started having back pains. I thought it was from the violin (I started to play for school because we needed music credits, and piano didn’t count), so I stopped that. It kept getting worse, so I thought there might be something wrong with my piano technique. I went to teachers all over my area- professors, department chairmen, international piano competition winners, graduates of well-known piano performance schools like Julliard and Moscow Conservatory- none of them found anything wrong with my technique. A few even said that if I kept going at the rate I was, in a couple years, I’d be able to get into Julliard. I kept practicing, then the back pains got worse, and one morning, I woke up and I wasn’t able to sit up to get out of bed. I still don’t know what happened- my muscles must have spasmed, I guess. That was what “woke me up,” so I quit piano. I remember crying myself to sleep for at least a month, and even now, I’m not sure my parents knew how big of a deal that was to me.

So, back to that first paragraph, sorry for the long intermission. I started to take private piano lessons at my university because I just couldn’t give it up, meanwhile trying to see if anyone there might know what might be causing the pain. Neither of the instructors I went to knew why, so I started to see multiple doctors. I went so far as to ask professors at my university who did research relating to neuromuscular issues. Nobody had a clear idea of what it could be. Each of them said to do tests, and they all suggested completely different tests. I think it goes without saying that I can’t afford to do all of them. So I gave up on trying to figure out the problem. Even without playing the piano, they’re still happening, so now I’m in a position where I’m dealing with those pains and doing work I absolutely can’t stand, versus my previous circumstance of being in pain but doing work that I can honestly say that I loved. In short, these past three years have been the most miserable years of my whole life, because I know what I want to do with my life, but I just can’t.

I know some people are going to think that there’s something wrong with me, that I’m incredibly lucky to have such a large scholarship for a major that will likely lead to a well-paying career and I’m actually considering throwing that all away, but what’s the point of all of that when I don’t know why I get up every morning? Yeah, some adults hate their careers and they might read this and want to tell me “Boo-hoo. I went through the same thing and I’m paying my bills. That’s all that matters.” But right now, it’s not too late for me to do something about it so I don’t end up like them, feeling terrible and complaining about how much I hate my career every day, but I feel like it’s getting close to being too late.

At this point, the only reason why I’d stay in my current university is for financial reasons- because of loans and because of how much a future career with this degree would pay. As for everything else, my GPA is low and I know it’s only going to get lower, I’ve been trying to ignore this and put it in the back of my mind for years now and now it’s messing with my sleep- I can’t concentrate in class, I can’t concentrate on studying, no matter how much I try. I still play the piano occasionally and those are the only times that I actually feel like I’m doing something worthwhile with my life. I even talked to a therapist throughout last year, trying to see if I could “get over” the piano, but it just reinforced wanting to study piano.

Aside from financial reasons, the other thing I’m afraid of is how to tell my parents- they’ve been the ones paying for me to go to university, and I’m absolutely sure they won’t be happy that I’m “wasting” 3 years. True, those 3 years are technically a “sunk cost,” and all that should be taken into account are the costs of the next year, but I tried explaining that concept to them before and they basically refused to believe it. I don’t want to disregard what they want for me because of how much they’ve done, but I feel like being “mindful” of what they expect of me means that I’m living someone else’s life, someone that I think they want me to be. I don’t have any motivation to work hard in my classes, because I don’t see any progression. I just see myself as working toward more of the same, over and over again, even after I graduate. I keep hearing people say “Oh, you won’t use most of this at work,” but that just makes it worse- if you don’t use it, what’s the point of learning it?? None of my classes inspire me. Sure, some topics are interesting (and I thought a casual “interest” would be enough), but it’s not enough. If I can barely deal with that for 3 years, how will I deal with it the rest of my life?

This isn’t some romanticized “I-want-to-escape” idea, because “college is too hard.” I have a plan, and I guess that’s what I’m here for (in other words, all of the above was just to give you some background. Okay, a lot of background). So:

-If you were in my place, would you go through with it and leave university? How should I discuss this with my parents, if the main concern is finances?

I know music conservatories aren’t free, and I’m more than aware that I probably won’t receive much, if any, in scholarships, due to how dismal my current college GPA is. My high school GPA and scores are fairly decent, though (top 2% of graduating class of a large public high school, 35 ACT, IB Diploma graduate).

My general plan is to leave university (immediately, if possible, depending on how my school’s financial aid works), get a job (just so I’m not just sitting around and taking advantage of my parents because I’m already an adult now), get my piano technique back on track (I’ve already started, just in case), apply to music programs/conservatories, and see what happens from there. Yeah, I still have back pains, but that hasn’t been a good excuse for my professors to keep me from standing in a lab for 5 hours straight and performing detailed lab techniques, so why should it stop me from piano? In terms of careers, I’ve always been good on stage (though recently not so much, I’ve lost a lot of my self-esteem in general since I quit, so that’s another thing I’ll have to work on) so piano performance is an option, as well as teaching piano. I know, it’s risky, but I think I picked my poison a long time ago. I just don’t know how to get from where I am to where I want to be with the least financial risk possible.

That was really long. So sorry if some of it was unnecessary, but I needed to take it all off my chest and if you actually take the time to read this and reply, you have no idea how thankful I am.

First of all, take good care of yourself and find out the cause of your seemingly debilitating back pain. Can you do any type of physical activity and if you do, do any of them alleviate or exacerbate your back pain? It seems to be pretty rare for young person like you to have such severe back pain. You have ruled out sciatica?
I really hope other more experienced parents will chime in, I am tagging one of them @compmom. As a parent of a child who is really into music, my two-cents to him has always been not to be too narrow in his undergraduate study, set a broad foundation, after four years, if his music passsion is still there, then by all means give it a try. This might not be what you want to hear, but I just have seen/heard too many “starving musician” stories to feel it is a good idea to give up on your school now. Why not finish the last year, then pursue your music dream?
I am too conservative, I think the negatives more, maybe that is the baggage you have to carry once you become a parent.
Best of luck.

Please see this thread
http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/2107368-great-article-what-happens-after-music-school.html#latest

Fully agree with @makemesmart . I hope you can find the reason for your back pain and resolve it before it comes back and impacts your quality of life. IMHO, decision you wish to make largely depends on this potential problem. There is no point in even contemplating dropping out of your current school to pursue music if after a while the back pain will come back and keep you from doing what you love doing. Wishing you all the best of luck in getting to the bottom of that issue.

I agree with the above posters: find out the cause of your back pain. I know this is more challenging that it may seem. If it is your SI joint, look into PRP, or platelet rich plasma, a newish procedure that can work wonders. Have you had an MRI? Keep looking for the right doctor. A rehab doctor or physiatrist might be a good choice.

As for schooling, you have finished two years, right? Have you finished gen eds?

Is it possible to take a leave- or withdraw- after this semester (assuming it is not possible to withdraw from this semester, though that might be even better).

I think you need to regroup and look at the big picture, and think about ways to accomplish what you want in terms of studies, music and work.

Do you need to go to a conservatory or school of music? If so, perhaps the best route is to have a teacher, practice and audition for grad school.

There are many ways to finish a BA, and there are schools that will take 65 transfer credits, 90 transfer credits. You could do a degree completion, adult learner, distance learning (online or low residency). or continuing ed program (these mainly differ in name only) and, say, take two classes at a time while working on piano. I know many dancers who do p/t school in order to have a degree once they stop dancing or while they dance and have a day job.

Or, could you stay where you are and switch majors to a BA in music? Or another major that you would like more (humanities?) while studying piano on the side.

There are many paths you can take but clearly you need to get off the path you are one. And you probably need to rehab your transcript so to speak.

This may also sound off the wall but you could look into the possibility that you have ADHD. An inability to do work that doesn’t truly interest you, paired with an ability to sort of hyperfocus on something that you are interested in, can sometimes be a sign of that. And that could be a helpful direction with some remedies.

I would say finish a bachelor’s at your current school, perhaps majoring in music, OR withdraw and finish in a non-traditional way. No matter what you choose, get that back diagnosed. And get back to piano.

Finally there are many ways to have music and piano in your life, professional and amateur, performing and teaching. Think about that too, and perhaps what kind of day job you could tolerate too!

Ask in the music major subforum http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/
Also read:
http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/1948726-double-degree-dilemma-essay-written-by-david-lane.html#latest

i would highly consider finishing your degree. Having a STEM degree doesn’t preclude you from playing music. Here is an example (one of my friend’s brothers)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hawley

WIth a degree you can make money. You can save that money to go to whatever school you want.

Agree with @bopper that having a STEM degree doesn’t preclude you from playing music. The advice I would give has already been stated… diagnose the back (don’t know where you live or what your insurance will cover but my step-mom had something wrong doctors couldn’t diagnose so took a trip to the Mayo Clinic. Their diagnostic program was crazy… she spend a whole day answering questions and by the next day they ran a couple tests they had narrowed to and she walked out with diagnosis and treatment plan for home. So look into that.) Finish your degree in some fashion whether switching majors, going part time to work on piano, or any combination of what has been stated. I say this because a school my son visited for physics had a physics professor who also had a Grammy. She followed her love of music while teaching high level physics. It can be done.

Yes, ask on the music forum. Read a few of the stickies there too :slight_smile:

You are only half way through college, or a little more. If you hate CS there it is okay to switch majors or take a break. The only issue is if you have done mostly major-related courses so far and haven’t done a lot of gen eds.

I second Mayo. We are traveling from NJ to Arizona to the Mayo Clinic there for Pectus (chest deformity) surgery for my daughter. Took several months to get all her testing done thru Children’s hospital of Philadelphia; Mayo needed to repeat three of the tests so they just scheduled them in the day before we saw the doctor. BamBam. The surgeon at CHoP said he can’t fix her, it’s mostly cosmetic, it still might look weird. A radiologist said only minor cardiac compression.
At Mayo, the did an echo sitting UP, which I’d never seen before. They let me watch as they had
my daughter bend forward…and the entire right ventricle of her heart pinched shut. They told me what they do differently to allow them to fix that particular type of defect, and I felt like they had all the time in the world to talk to us. The difference is really amazing.

Wow, good luck @Gudmom with your daughter’s procedure at Mayo Clinic!

Hello @chocolatepeach I recently got back onto College Confidential and noticed your post. You are very articulate about how you are feeling and that is wonderful. It is now the spring semester and I wonder how you are doing/feeling. Regarding your back pain, I don’t know where you live, but can you look into finding a Performing Arts Clinic? Medical insurance generally pays for this. My daughter, violinist, was helped tremendously by clinicians (neurologist, physical therapist, occupational therapist) who specialize in treating musicians.

There are many ways to do music, and I truly hope that you, so clearly talented and dedicated to the piano, keep looking for your unique path. You will find it. Also, a slight tidbit - maybe build up your piano time, and play in smaller increments, with breaks where you stand up and stretch (every 10-15 minutes). Also, exercises to build up your core strength, very important. It will help support the muscles of your shoulders/arms.