<p>Sorry nyleco007 I messed up and should have had mhmm instead for my post #34. As for the box thing, couldn’t do it myself and still trying to figure out how to add the happy faces.</p>
<p>ops, to quote, you type
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only spell quote correctly. I did that so it wouldn’t actually draw the box around it.</p>
<p>for smilies, just do this without the * inserted. Again, I put them in so the smilies wouldn’t actually appear. :<em>) or sad :</em>( or winking ;*) I don’t know if you can do a sad winking…let’s see ;( </p>
<p>Someone took the time to tell me this last year and now I’m just returning the favor.</p>
<p>I guess there is no such thing as a lighthearted frown. ;( Actually, it looks kinda angry.</p>
<p>If you have a relative or sibling who went there, you’re highly likely to get in. You’d have to be all-around BAD to get rejected if a parent, grandparent or sibling attended.</p>
<p>I just found the list of code you can use to do all kinds of formatting like bold/italized/colored font, etc. </p>
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<p>nyleco – since Im not quoting numbers, the basis for the assertion is obviously not statistical, neither is it imagined.
original op – certainly a legacy or a sibling will have a greater chance of admission. Schools couldnt really survive without generations of families going there. It needs to be a truly bad fit for a legacy child not to get in. (and by fit I mean grades/scores/kid has a personality of serial killer). A child who is not a legacy and a sibling is only pretty much competing within the pool of non-legacy, non-sibling kids.<br>
ops – I agree that fit is important in choosing a school for your child, but fit must be determined within the academic parameters. If you have an amazingly smart child, who is kind and gentle, you will not send them to a school that is warm and fuzzy and has a median ssat/sat average way lower on the scale. They will be bored and you’ll be looking to transfer your kid before long. Instead you will be looking at a warm and fuzzy school within the top performing academic schools.
leanid – nowhere do I say that I define great teachers as those that only want to teach stellar kids. Its a natural thing for teachers that are smart and ambitious to want to be where they can teach kids that are smart. For a majority of very smart teachers, its a bore to teach mediocre kids. We are talking about individuals with terminal degrees, who write books, could easily teach in most colleges, etc. There are also amazing teachers who love teaching and do nothing else, and those are the ones you remember from early childhood throughout your life. Those are rare. They are often found in programs that are somewhat remedial in nature. And often they produce great students who go on as great achievers. However, you wouldnt put a naturally smart and competitive student in such a program. And I still maintain that saying there are three or four dozen schools with pretty much same academics as “hades” etc, is akin to giving a trophy to every team in the soccer league.</p>
<p>Excuse me, but your making it sound as though any school not in HADES, or the like, is of the remedial type or just mediocre, at best. That is clearly not true! There are many bright students who are adequately challenged in dozens of schools (you think are not first rate), and then go on to very fine colleges.</p>
<p>You are selling short many excellent schools. You had better have some hard facts to prove how mediocre they are!</p>
<p>mhmm, out of curiosity, are you a kid?</p>
<p>fif had the same thought…</p>
<p>no mhmm is a parent with three kids at different schools (different stages in life) and with many many friends with kids in BS/private day schools</p>
<p>leanid, you are jumping down my throat, and keep on bringing up the fine colleges the kids in different schools get into. Sure, even the North Dakota High sends kids to Harvard. Of course kids go to good colleges out of many different kinds of boarding schools. But why not bring examples of your own. A kid with all A’s in their history of schooling and SSAT scores in the 90th percentile is not going to be found in a majority of boarding schools. That kid will only be found in academically challenging schools. Same as a student with an A in all of his/her high school career, 2300up sat’s excellent ecs and athletics will be found at an ivy, not at boston college (sorry, couldnt resist). That doesnt mean that the kid who went to a more competitive school or college will do better in life and be a more meaningful individual. All it means is that that kid will thrive in an academically challenging environment, at a school that accepts majority of kids with an ssat score of 60/70% and C/B average can not by definition be as academically challenging as a school that accepts kids in the 90% and Bplus and up average. No matter how hard you try to change the perception. Its the same as saying “public ivy” or my college is almost as hard as an ivy. Fine, but its not. Get over it. Not everyone can be in the top . Its ok to be in the middle, or the bottom. Its what you do with the opportunity. Just dont pretend its the same. Sorry for the rant and for taking this thread off topic, but tired of people with myopia.</p>
<p>Thanks for the BB code cheat sheet, Bentley! :)</p>
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<p>Ummm…disagree. Many of the athletes at the Ivies will have a lesser gpa and test scores, and will be very good, but not “top” athletes. The best athletes are likely to go to a college where the athletics are tops…like maybe BC, or heaven, forbid, a big 10 school.</p>
<p>***And, thanks, neato - I can finally quote!!!</p>
<p>Good morning mhmm, IMO believe your statements come across rather definitive and reason being for all the back and forth banter. What you say certainly holds true to an extent but I can assure you that there are many schools which don’t get much play here on CC that could refute your stance. There are a lot of smart students and teachers out there and simply not enough space at 6-12 schools for all of them. To misesteem those other schools with their faculty and student body would be a fallacy. I believe we’ve hijacked a good thread long enough.</p>
<p>mhmm.</p>
<p>For god’s sake, who is being myopic here?! Do you actually think that getting a 70, 60 or even less than 50 on the ssat will, ipso facto, preclude entry into the “sacred seven” (Hades)?! You had better think again!!</p>
<p>Read my labia – The Earth’s population has DOUBLED in my lifetime – now we have perhaps twice as many “smart” people out there. Last time I checked, the sacred seven did not double their enrollments.</p>
<p>As for using Boston College as an example of where an “Ivy stud” would never think of going – wrong again!! I knew students there 35 years ago who chose it over Cornell and Mount Holyoke (when Mount Holyoke was Mount Holyoke!). A friend and classmate of mine there was named a MacArthur Fellow. Since that time, in case you hadn’t noticed, BC has been going nowhere but up! And now it has a healthy endowment to help support its ALWAYS strong academics – then as now. You should really pick on another college if you cannot resist the need to put something down. Your ignorance is showing.</p>
<p>Leanid, I think you mean “read my lips.”</p>
<p>Mhmm, I too find your analysis flawed and na</p>
<p>Sorry, if that was bad form. I used it for added emphasis since the message was not getting through.</p>
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This is a valid point, but note that only a self-selected group of students are applying to private schools and even a smaller portion to boarding schools. Besides, as noted in another thread (<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-parents/796085-student-body-percentage-new-england.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-parents/796085-student-body-percentage-new-england.html</a>), many would apply/go to schools in their region only. All things considered, the competitiveness of the pool is likely to be overestimated. On the other hand, even in the most academically rigorous schools, because of the legacy/sibling admits, athlets and even the consideration of a balanced class, any given class would not have the absolutely most academically qualified the school could find. However, all the factors that affect the top schools as mentioned above would be part of the admission process in lesser tiered schools as well. The lesson here is that don’t assume your child will be in a similar pool of students at schools of different selectivity, and the quality of the student body WILL determine the academic envrionment no matter how qualified the teachers are.</p>
<p>At the individual level, understandably families/students are making their choices taking various factors into consideration. Some may intend to be on top of the class in a less competitive school, others go to a certain school for a scholarship offer, etc., but IN GENERAL, when putting a bright and motivated student in a lesser tiered school (lesser than he/she could gain admission to) would potentially shortchange him/her and negatively affect the best BS education he/she could get.</p>
<p>Parlabane - Well said!</p>
<p>Benley - There’s truth in what you say.</p>
<p>Perhaps part of the problem, if one feels “shortchanged” in one’s school, is that the expectations for what should form the high school curriculum have altered, in recent years, to the point of resembling what was previously considered a college “load”.</p>
<p>Why is it that schools are trying to be colleges? But that’s another problem…</p>