<p>SATs and PSATs aren’t the best indicators of performance at top notch colleges. At a certain point, each additional point becomes exponentially less meaningful.</p>
<p>You only need to provide some non-asian with same stats who got erjected to convince me.</p>
<p>also 4.0 uw gpa, 4.5 wgpa val</p>
<p>I hate to tell you this buddy, but you probably needed to take more APs. By deriving a curve based on our respective APs and our respective results, I believe that by taking 17 APs and getting 5’s, you would get accepted.</p>
<p>@goblue - </p>
<p>I have answered all of your questions comprehensively in this thread.</p>
<p>This was the maximum number of AP’s allowed to take. +2 college leve math classes, CalcD linear.</p>
<p>First of subjectives is race unfortunately.</p>
<p>@Handala - </p>
<p>Exactly. And I don’t blame you for having trouble getting through it. It was not that long ago that I was applying for college myself, and I thought my high GPA and excellent test scores were all that mattered. </p>
<p>At some schools, it is. But not for us. But, as I hope the numbers I posted in the other thread demonstrate, numbers aren’t everything. 2196 valedictorians applied to us; even if we ONLY took valedictorians, we’d still have to reject over half of them! </p>
<p>Part of the reason I’m posting all of this information is so that future readers of CC will understand how we do things and set their expectations accordingly.</p>
<p>^ seriously? Do you know how many more hours you need to put in for 4.0 vs 3.8?
I really don’t believe 2250 and 2400 are the same. S got 2250 in 8th grade.</p>
<p>There are a lot of variables that go into a 4.0 though. Part of it is luck [like strict/lenient teacher, how subjective the grading is (don’t get me started on English classes), etc]. For SATs, what are you really testing? How well someone can read this, write this, or not make a mistake adding on that. The difference between a 2250 and a 2400 isn’t that significant.</p>
<p>What MITChris is saying (I think) is that while 2400 might be harder to achieve than a 2250 on the SAT, both the 2250 and 2400 student would perform the same at MIT, indicating that after a certain point, there is practically no difference how that student will perform at MIT. So they look at other factors when deciding to admit the 2250 vs. 2400 student. At this point, you (the 2400er) are still equal to the guy/girl who scored 2250, both your scores made it through the round and will now not really be considered any more.</p>
<p>@gapyear - </p>
<p>Bingo.</p>
<p>MITChris,
If this is MIT’s selection philosophy, it can explain why MIT is in the decline. My company (a world leading high tech company) went to recruit at MIT a while back and did not find any one we’d like to hire.</p>
<p>@goblue - </p>
<p>Sorry you didn’t find anyone you liked! But we’re pretty happy with the way things are going. To each their own, I suppose.</p>
<p>
I’m sure the generosity of your world leading high tech company will be sorely missed.</p>
<p>goblue, let me get this straight. You’re a grown up, an adult, a parent, and you believe that MIT is greatly flawed because it failed to accept your child. You believe that if YOUR child isn’t entitled to an MIT acceptance, no one else is. Thus, everyone who got accepted into MIT for the class of 2014 is a joke, and hence, the quality of MIT is “declining” because your child was not accepted and your so-called “company” has a bad opinion about MIT students. </p>
<p>Please grow up and act like an adult. The admissions cycle for the class of 2014 is not different from previous admissions cycles. MIT has made it obvious that they are admitting human beings, not academic grinds who lock themselves up in their rooms and obsess over the SAT. MIT wants to see students pursue their passions, even if it is at a cost of a grade slip. And, from my general feelings, the people who get the 2400s and the valedictorian title are sometimes arrogant to the point where they feel entitled to a great school. This arrogance comes across in their essays and their application as a whole. They tend to put across the message that their accomplishments were solely for the point of getting accepted into a prestigious college.</p>
<p>MIT would admit the kid who plays, designs, and programs robots as a hobby, and has a couple of Bs over the kid who is constantly paranoid about taking the right balance of AP courses and electives to reach a #1 class rank.</p>
<p>This has been said time and time again, but passion and character are most important. MIT is trying to generate the next great physicist/chemist/etc, and this will not happen unless the student is passionate and enthralled by the field for its own beauty. MIT wants the person who will fall in LOVE with the equations, not the person who uses the equations to get an 800 on SAT math or a 5 on AP Physics and later discards them.</p>
<p>I’m not saying that . Actually I’m pretty happy with the result. saved my 200k+. I’m saying it is as much the student make the institution as the institution makes the student.
as far as MIT decline I’ve heard from many people not from my company.</p>
<p>Wow,over 110 responses in 1 day after MIT unexpectedly reject/WL many perfect scorers/award winners/highest achievers. Though there have been civilised discussions, root of the queries remain in most rejectees’ mind: how much weight is given to AA/hardships and scores/awards/ec , given an ever expanding applicant pool? Certain applicant “types” should have this presented to them CLEARLY to lower their expectations-- low transparency only breeds suspicion. To MIT, your loss is CalT/Ivies gain 
Good luck to all.</p>
<p>you sound like a blog comment who should have a male enhancement link at the end (and suspiciously relevant looking content generated by HMM’s)</p>
<p>@goblue93: Please go through the five stages of grief somewhere else. You are losing it.</p>
<p>@RawMcatBB: Though you wouldn’t know it based on the outrage in this thread, MIT admissions is very transparent. More transparent than most schools. If you read the admissions blogs, or even just MITchris’s posts on this thread, the MIT decisions process is explained in detail. There isn’t a conspiracy.</p>