Letter to John Sexton on dropping out of NYU

<p>Is being in New York the main reason NYU seems to be a “dream school” for so many students?</p>

<p>Of course, it seems that being a common “dream school” also means more “let down” stories from students who find it to be less ideal than their high expectations of it.</p>

<p>Yes UCB, I believe being in NY is the dream factor.</p>

<p>Being in New York is not a small part of the attraction. There are also countless TV shows and movies that glamorize NYU. And, it’s a little more academically selective than some of the other NYC schools making acceptance feel like something of an achievement.</p>

<p>I went to an open house at NYU in 2010 with my son. They were VERY VERY candid about the high cost of NYU and the paltry aid they give. They have too many international students with $$$$ who will gladly pay full freight, and parents who will mortgage everything to get that Stern business degree or the Tisch film or theater degree. NYU is a ridiculously overpriced and overrated school for any major other than business, film, or theater. </p>

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<p>That’s part of the aggressive marketing NYU has been doing since the '90s…and it has certainly paid off nicely in massive increase in apps and from a more national and international applicant pool than was the case even 15 years ago.</p>

<p>??? I think Flossy was referring to Friends and TV shows of that ilk which show people who work in coffee shops as waitresses living in huge two bedroom apartments in Greenwich Village. Or Sex in the City, where someone who writes for a magazine can afford $800 shoes and couture clothing.</p>

<p>Cobrat- are you really blaming NYU and their marketing efforts for mass market entertainment on HBO and NBC? You need to seek help for your paranoia!!!</p>

<p>Course, doesn’t hurt that the city itself has changed in some ways that make it more hospitable.</p>

<p>Mostly, Gossip Girl. But, there are others. </p>

<p>CUNY was the school that served the smart, poor students of NYC. Until it was effectively destroyed by open admissions.</p>

<p>Yeah, cobrat…that is pretty ridiculous. Flossy is completely right. And it’s not just TV shows–it’s the movies, Broadway, and the fact that it is the country’s “flagship” city in so many ways.</p>

<p>Another thing that is crazy about NYU is all the costs that parents can’t plan for. My friend whose son goes to school there just had to shell out EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS to a broker who helped find her kid his apartment.</p>

<p>How do you get to age 20 or 21 and not understand you can’t have everything you want, including your “dream school”? What’s even more worrisome is her mom’s a school librarian. Um, research the 4-year cost, find a LGBTQ-accepting school, and pick the one you can afford. But start by pulling your head out of the clouds…</p>

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@sally305‌ I’m trying to see if there’s any way that is a typo. :-t </p>

<p>No!! It’s nuts. That’s almost the entire cost of room and board at many colleges. And then there’s the $1400/mo rent for a BEDROOM in a crummy little apartment…and food…and fake IDs to get into bars…the list goes on. :(</p>

<p>Back when when we lived in the NYC area, we didn’t use brokers and could find apartments in Manhattan. I think that there are a lot of suckers in this world.</p>

<p>How hard is it for a twenty year old to find an apartment? Yeesh. I worked for an apartment rental company HQed in one of the most expensive rental markets in LA and we charged about one eighth of that for our all inclusive package which included private tours and an on site broker. Our biggest competitor was the totally free Craigslist. </p>

<p>Yeah, a student does not have to pay a broker 8K to find a 14-hundred dollar room to rent in NYC. It’s expensive but that’s just stupid.</p>

<p>D is a recent (Jan 2014) NYU grad. Student housing was guaranteed for 4 years (as long as a student did not leave NYU housing and want back in). So unless the policy has recently changed, why does this kid need an apartment?
In addition, D now has an apartment in NYC. She did not use a broker.</p>

<p>Well, the reason my friend went with a broker is that last year her son rented from an unscrupulous landlord that sued the kids for devaluing the property because they had one loud party and the neighbors complained. Each family has spent over $15K on New York lawyers to defend their kids. Each…family.</p>

<p>This is a family who lives VERY frugally to provide opportunities to their kids–never take vacations, drive old cars, buy clothes on eBay or at consignment shops, buy a side of beef at the beginning of the year and live on it for months. And now they are just pouring money down a very deep hole.</p>

<p>“I believe that everyone should get to choose their college or university based on what school is the right fit for them rather than based on their financial circumstances, and that’s why I made the choice that I did.”</p>

<p>I can’t believe that a 20 year old wrote this, in this day and age. She’s either incredibly entitled or just living under a rock. </p>

<p>FWIW, I’ve always thought a Mercedes was the right fit for me… silly narrowminded-me for driving a Nissan…</p>

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<p>Just from one noise complaint? </p>

<p>There has to be more to the story either from the level of unscrupulousness on the landlord’s part and/or the possibility there were other possible issues/incidents with the son and roommates. Especially considering housing laws in NYC/State tend to lean towards being more pro-tenant than pro-landlord. </p>

<p>Several years ago, a neighboring co-op building next to my parents’ building did boot out a couple of co-op shareholders for hosting a few parties which were “too loud”. However, those parties were so noisy complaints were coming from all around the block at 2-3 am, a stretch limo was obstructing traffic on the small street, and multiple cops had to be brought in to break up the party due to the belligerence of the host/attendees. By the second party, everyone on that block wanted those hosts out. </p>

<p>BTW: The host and attendees weren’t young college students/20-something professionals. Hosts were 50something stage producers in the Broadway/Off-Broadway world and attendees were mostly patrons in the same age range. </p>