<p>I am convinced one of my DDs classmates had her older sister take test for her (at other than HS location). Classmate flunked out of said college. Way over her head.</p>
<p>“I think that this is the natural and predictable outcome of the practice of placing so much emphasis on a single test.”</p>
<p>“If colleges had a more balanced approach to admissions – for example, if they were all test-optional and made it clear that test scores would be considered, but were not the primary criteria for admission… then there would be fewer individuals ready to pony up $1,000-- particularly if the colleges made it clear that a strong SAT score wouldn’t offset a weak GPA.”</p>
<p>This is like saying if banks didn’t have money in their vaults, they wouldn’t get robbed. Don’t blame the school or the bank.</p>
<p>“I will just quote what one of the commenters on the article said:”</p>
<p>The study shows what the study shows. Commentators (like you and me) are just commentators. </p>
<p>Of course, they never do any grey matters studies of teens in countries and cultures where they are already part of the adult world, and don’t experience any of the “teen angst”, “impulsive behavior”, or “immaturity” that we see here. (But then again, people in other parts of the world have different grey matter, right?)</p>
<p>I just posted this in agreement with someone else on the “other thread” but College Board should notify the colleges that kids apply to when cheating is confirmed. These tests are for the college…not the high school and not for the kids. It might make kids think twice about cheating if they knew they would be reported to the colleges. I could care less if the legal system gets involved put the punishment where it really hurts. Colleges do tend to frown on cheating. These kind of stories totally disgust me. I can’t imagine Emory is proud to call the test taker one of theirs…and I’m sure UofM is glad he’s gone. The kids that hired him can sit around for a year or two and stew about their unethical behavior as far as I’m concerned. That pure B*S to talk about immaturity or impulsive behavior…not cheating gets taught long, long before age 17 and if it turns out the parents knew about it I’m even more disgusted.</p>
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Well, the point is that banks do not keep all their money in their vaults. They spread things around (sometimes too much, but that’s a different story).</p>
<p>This story was carried on NBC news tonight. They aired a clip of someone reading the scores achieved by the impostor: 2220, 2210, 2180 & 2140. Only an 80 point spread for 4 sittings. Also, one of students purchasing the proxy service was a girl.</p>
<p>That guy has some nerve charging $1500 plus plane fare to deliver a 2140. Caveat emptor…</p>
<p>“Well, the point is that banks do not keep all their money in their vaults. They spread things around (sometimes too much, but that’s a different story).”</p>
<p>That is not the point. I didn’t say all of it. And that is an entirely different story.</p>
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<p>There’s also the possibility they attended an academically rigorous high school where teachers have high expectations and grade tough. </p>
<p>A commonplace phenomenon at the NYC specialized high school I attended. A factor in why several classmates…even those with C/D averages had no problems transferring to Ivy/elite colleges after 1-2 years and graduating from college with honors level GPAs(3.5+)…and nearly all of them were STEM/pre-med majors. What’s more…most said the workload…even at the Ivy/elite colleges was much easier than what we experienced in high school.</p>
<p>Would this incident trigger enhanced security at the upcoming SAT test this Saturday?</p>
<p>Worried, Iglooo? JK…
I doubt it on a blanket policy. But individual test centers may be more stringent based on the recent publicity. Honestly, if people want to cheat, they will find a way. My dad used to say “there are locks on doors just to keep honest people honest.”</p>
<p>Yeah, I think I’d better stay home:)</p>
<p>Now seriously, there may be some confusion. In that case, my kid should leave home early.</p>
<p>I would just make sure that he looks like the picture on his ID, it is an acceptable ID, and he has his entry ticket printed out and able to be read clearly. And extra careful about what he has in the room with him. They may scrutinize ID’s more, slowing down check in. But unless they can get info out across country to all proctors AND students taking the test, there is not much they can do this time.
I would not be surprised if they started to require a goverment issued ID for admittance in the future. You can still get around that, but it may help with the fake ID issues a little.</p>
<p>I’m sure there will be more scrutiny for a while. After all, one of the HS students was a female. It was reported her test was a freebie. Unfortunate all around.</p>
<p>There certainly can be confusion. My daughter took her passport to take the SAT Subject tests last year, and the person at the desk wasn’t sure that it was acceptable ID. Finally they did let her in. (She couldn’t find her school ID before leaving the house.)</p>
<p>After all, one of the HS students was a female.</p>
<p>That’s what keeps me scratching my head. Did she have a unisex name? Or did the guy wear a head scarf or something for his fake ID???</p>
<p>*That guy has some nerve charging $1500 plus plane fare to deliver a 2140. Caveat emptor… *</p>
<p>lol…well, that may have been much higher than that paying-student could ever get.</p>
<p>If colleges had a more balanced approach to admissions – for example, if they were all test-optional and made it clear that test scores would be considered, but were not the primary criteria for admission.</p>
<p>Test scores expose ridiculous grade inflation. Someone posted that a student had top GPA, but a 1500/2400 SAT…looks like serious grade inflation going on.</p>
<p>“lol…well, that may have been much higher than that paying-student could ever get.”</p>
<p>Yes, it was. The discrepency between gpa and the SAT score was one of the red flags. There were also rumors that alerted faculty.</p>
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<p>Being a minor doesn’t protect one from criminal charges. The penalties may be different, and typically their names are not released to the public, but they most certainly can face criminal charges.</p>
<p>They are charged with misdemeanors. The names cannot be released to the colleges they attend or have been admitted to - at least by the authorities. I’m sure they will find out. </p>
<p>I would think the “taker” would be able to plea to a lesser charge so he doesn’t have a felony on his record.</p>
<p>I have sympathy for the other students at Great Neck North HS. Don’t you think Adcoms will be suspicious? But, if you have a high gpa, not to worry.</p>