Long Island SAT Cheating Ring - Great Neck

<p>cartera, couldn’t College Board inform the all of colleges they sent scores to that their scores were cancelled? Wouldn’t that be enough to make a college aware?</p>

<p>The girl reportedly had a gender-neutral name.</p>

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So basically they get a slap on the wrist; which will only encourage others with big $$$$ to cheat – after all the consequences of getting caught is minimal with a negative impact only for the test taker.</p>

<p>Unless the 2012 graduating cheaters have been admitted early to a school with rolling admissions, their applications are still in process. Are these scores going to be part of their app package? If colleges are not going to be informed - I think the scandal will have a negative impact on ALL of the Great Neck apps, especially any student in which SAT scores out match GPA. How will college admins know if a kid is or isn’t one of the Great Neck cheaters</p>

<p>^As vlines posted, those scores will be cancelled. That will alert colleges. Good point.</p>

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<p>It is more than this that is concerning. Other students with lower SAT scores because they did not cheat may be denied a college seat and not even know that they were a victim of cheating. The honest student may not be offered a merit scholarship that is going to a “cheater”. That merit award might not only be a nice to have, but a necessity for a student with more modest means than the “cheaters” in order to attend said school.</p>

<p>Cross posted with Ohiomom. Do cancelled scores show up on records? Also, it may not mean a person cheated if scores are cancelled. Don’t scores in an entire room of students occasionally get cancelled because of cheating, or improper administration of the exam, etc.?</p>

<p>4 of the 6 are freshman in college THIS year</p>

<p>There’s a saying “for every rat you find, there are fifty that you don’t.” Makes you wonder how many other tests the professional test taker took which haven’t been discovered.</p>

<p>Christian Science Monitor is quoting CC posts in an article about this:</p>

<p>[SAT</a> cheating scandal: Are stakes getting too high for college admission? - CSMonitor.com](<a href=“SAT cheating scandal: Are stakes getting too high for college admission? - CSMonitor.com”>SAT cheating scandal: Are stakes getting too high for college admission? - CSMonitor.com)</p>

<p>I’m a little confused here. Are the kids who are in college already whose SAT score were “created” have no consequences affecting there placement?</p>

<p>Retraction of the scores won’t send them packing?</p>

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Sadly it doesn’t seem like they are remorseful about checking …… only upset about getting caught.</p>

<p>Might also be interesting to know how these HS’ers acquired the $$ to pay for said service?</p>

<p>I would love to know where thse students ended up going to school. And if the school knew about this, and gave students suspensions, how the colleges will feel about the schools not reporting the cheating to the colleges themselves. Very interesting. </p>

<p>I am not exactly sure how making the arrests now capitalizes on Saturday’s SAT exam…but I guess he is grabbing at straws.</p>

<p>The pressures around standardized testing are indeed very high; we all want our kid to get into a better college than the neighbor’s kid. But hiring an impersonator to take your child’s SAT, even by my lax moral standard, is simply wrong. </p>

<p>I do, however, empathize with the parents of these students. The SAT, and the college admission process more generally, define our children and define us as parents. Simply put, if your child attends Yale you have suceeded as a parent and validated your lineage. If your child is attends Tufts, my sincere condolences. As a result, good parents are forced to make difficult ethical decisions in order to survive socially.</p>

<p>The cold hard facts are that sometimes, in spite of the parents’ best efforts, the child is simply no good (710, 660, 680 (superscored!)). All of the tutoring, harranguing, and prodding in the world will not make that kid acceptable. This inevitably leads to familial strife, with parent and child left feeling inadequate (in the case of the parent, unfairly). </p>

<p>All of this stress would be alleviated if children, like ball players, could be traded. In that regard, my son is a very high scorer on standardized tests but is somewhat uncoordinated (based on my superior atheticism I, quite reasonably, expected more). I have listed his availability on EBay. I am looking to secure cash considerations and a child (athletic) to be named later.</p>

<p>Someone had to go first. </p>

<p>You’re welcome.</p>

<p>A Pioneer</p>

<p>I’m curious about how much higher the bogus scores were than the ones the students might have attained themselves, with a prep course. Did cheating boost them from 1900 to 2200, or from 1500 to 2200? </p>

<p>I am also wondering why police and courts are involved in a cheating scandal. I’m not minimizing what the students did - I think it’s awful - but it seems to me that the consequences should be academic. I think that all students who got into college based on bogus scores should be expelled, as should the test-taker. But why is anyone talking about jail time?</p>

<p>The new writing section with handwritten essay seems like a good check on this. Don’t the colleges get the actual essays? Can’t they easily compare the handwriting with other samples from the applicant?</p>

<p>It must be a crime to use a false ID.</p>

<p>Stats21, what a hilarious post!</p>

<p>Yes, the fake ID issue apparently ramped up in the aftermath of 9/11 and the homeland Security Act.</p>

<p>That lawyer trying to make his client the victim is disgusting. No sympathy here.</p>

<p>Stats21, you had me going there for a minute …</p>

<p>What tipped you off, “superscored!”?</p>

<p>I would think that if the higher SAT scores gained the students some merit money then there would be fraud charges involved in that as well.</p>

<p>Stats21, no need to trade in your son due to lack of athleticism. All he needs is a pinch hitter.</p>

<p>Back in the day, I routinely earned $1000 on my summer job for school expenses. I would think it would be easy to earn that or more these days. In addition, HS kids today seem to have way more disposable income than we did, most likely coming from parents.</p>