Looking for colleges that I may be missing?

College Search & Selection
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<p>I have a list of schools that both my boys (twins) '16 are currently looking at. However, I wanted to make sure I am not missing any. </p>

<p>They both would like to go to same college. Location is important: East Coast New York or lower, Texas, California, Ohio or Arizona.</p>

<p>Stats:
First Son has SAT 1280 (M + CR), 1870 combined. </p>

<p>EC: nothing special. Just average </p>

<p>Wants to major in computer science or computer engineering. </p>

<p>Second Son has 1210 SAT (M + CR) and 1830 overall. </p>

<p>EC: nothing special as well. Some but not like you see people post on here. </p>

<p>He is completely undecided on major, but is thinking in science with less math. </p>

<p>ACT has not been taken yet. Will do so in February and April. </p>

<p>SAT will be taken again in March. </p>

<p>Size is important to them as they don't want any school with less then 5000 or so students. </p>

<p>Expenses: we can afford max 25,000 per year for each. But would be willing to get a Plus loan for the right school. </p>

<p>Current list: Penn state, Pittsburgh, Delaware, NC STATE, Florida, U of MIAMI, Miami of Ohio, Ohio state (if son 2 can get his SAT up to get OOS scholarship). This list is too public oriented and most don't give good aid. </p>

<p>What schools am I missing out on that we should research and visit?</p>

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<p>Alabama - 1290 M+CR will give you half-tuition scholarships. Tulane gives some merit, not sure if they’re quite up to that level yet. Lehigh is a possibility with a little higher test score.</p>

<p>Also, make them visit at least one small LAC. They aren’t allowed to reject anything they haven’t seen - so many students have this bias against small schools without ever visiting any and getting a feel for their advantages. If they hate it, fine, but they need to go in with an open mind. Trust me, they can easily hide from each other even on a 2000 student campus.</p>

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<p>You will be full pay for Penn State. What about the SUNYs like Stony Brook? What is your home state?</p>

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<p>Home state is PA</p>

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<p>With the number of OH schools I assumed it was there. Penn State looks like it will come in at $30K (for an in-state student). Have you run the Net Price Calculators for the schools on your list?</p>

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<p>Eric, thanks yes. </p>

<p>Really not debating my current list just looking for schools I may be missing. </p>

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<p>Heard South Carolina gives decent merit aid. </p>

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<p>York College of PA seems like one worthy of looking at.</p>

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<p>UF is likely a reach, due to cost. OOS Tuition is $28.5K and they are not know for giving much in merit (or OOS tuition waivers). </p>

<p>I would think UCF or USF are better “Florida” options. Both son’s would be offered merit aid, and both schools are fairly large (UCF is HUGE), and offer Computer Engineering (and many other STEM majors). They may want to apply to one of these schools as a “financial” safety (for an OOS school). They both use rolling admissions, so they would know by October if they are accepted and by November the merit award. It’s not uncommon for in-state students to pick UCF/USF over UF, due to the merit scholarships.</p>

<p>The University of South Carolina does give decent OOS merit.</p>

<p><a href=“Apply Now - Office of Undergraduate Admissions | University of South Carolina”>Apply Now - Office of Undergraduate Admissions | University of South Carolina;

<p>It has a great (maybe the best) Honor’s program, and offers a large range of majors (including Computer Engineering).</p>

<p>Clemson is a stronger “engineering” school than USC, and offers OOS merit, though not as much as South Carolina.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.clemson.edu/admissions/scholarships-out/”>http://www.clemson.edu/admissions/scholarships-out/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>With a 1250 SAT or 28 ACT (and being in the top 10%) they would qualify for a $5K/year OOS scholarship. A higher SAT/ACT score can earn them up to $15K a year. </p>

<p>Both Alabama and Auburn offer great OOS scholarships. Note that Alabama doesn’t offer Computer Engineering (of course, all of these schools offer Computer Sciences). </p>

<p>Good Luck!</p>

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<p>Actually, Alabama does have Computer Engineering. Looks like a decent program, it covers all the basics.
<a href=“http://ece.eng.ua.edu/undergraduate/computer-engineering/”>http://ece.eng.ua.edu/undergraduate/computer-engineering/&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://ece.eng.ua.edu/files/2014/09/CEO-Flowchart-2015_Spring_09_29_2014.pdf”>http://ece.eng.ua.edu/files/2014/09/CEO-Flowchart-2015_Spring_09_29_2014.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Alabama has a “Computer Engineering Option in Electrical Engineering, BSEE” So it’s accredited under the EE program. Other schools that offer “Computer Engineering” would award a degree in “Computer Engineering, BS”. Some schools offer both programs. </p>

<p>It’s a rather long explanation about the differences but I’ll try to get it short. :)</p>

<p>At UA you’re an EE major with emphasis in computer engineering, while the other option is a Computer engineering Major.</p>

<p>“For example, computer engineers who build high-speed circuits within the latest microprocessors are basically electrical engineers with some knowledge of computers. On the other hand, computer engineers who build, say, data acquisition systems, need to know much more about the design of software systems but less about low-level circuit analysis. The BSEE with the computer engineering option is for those more interested in the first kind of project, the BS Computer Engineering is for those more interested in the second.”</p>

<p>How would this impact someone at UA? For the BSEE with the computer engineering option, students would take more electrical engineering and fewer computer courses.Keep in mind that both types of computer engineers do fine in the market place, it’s really something you should choose according to your preference. </p>

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<p>I understand, but looking at the flow chart for the CompEng option, there really is very little of the traditional EE courses left, including my nemesis, two semesters of electromagnetic theory. Not to mention machine design, power systems, communications theory, and control systems. Some of that looks like it’s covered in some of the classes, but it’s a far cry from 30 years ago.</p>

<p>If I were looking for money, the difference between a Computer Engineering Option in EE vs. a straight Computer Engineering degree wouldn’t stop me. Wherever you go for a job is going to take you and teach you what you really need to know anyway.</p>

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<p>If they’ve only taken SAT once so far, have them prep and work on raising scores. Very do-able. If you can get to 1300+ for CR+M will open lots more doors. Check out: WPI …RPI … Case Western … Lafayette … all smaller than the big schools but good STEM / Science - Stony Brook in NY is excellent - and although OOS for PA might still be affordable. Their Honors College is great if invited. Good luck.</p>