Looking for percussion school with 2.5 GPA

My son is HS junior, loves percussion (plays drums, cymbals, etc), will have been in band all 4 years, 2 years in competitive percussion group, wants to play music. Works hard and spends 15-20 hrs a week outside school on percussion. Now he’s considering a college or something after HS, but he doesn’t want to do regular subjects like English and Math. Weighted GPA right now is 2.8.

All music study is totally new for our family. We need advice…especially given his grades and lack of interest in general Liberal Arts.

Could someone please provide options and suggestions for further study beyond HS we can consider?

Music program at school is new and not a whole lot of direction. Guidance counselor says he’s got to figure it out himself. Please Help!

Would the band director and/or percussion leader be a resource? Is there a nearby university or even a music store that could provide a private teacher? What type of music would your son like to play? Many percussionists chose between jazz drumset or classical percussion but a program could include both. For example, William Paterson focuses on percussion ensemble work although their program includes jazz. And it looks like you can audition there even if weak in mallet percussion.

If you have a whole summer, there is drum corps (DCI).

Thanks for mentioning William Paterson, an example of a school we didn’t know that could be a possibility to explore.

I think he’s more inclined to jazz.

He is looking at drum corps — right now, we’re more trying to figure out music school options at the “undergrad” level.

If your son wants to go the jazz route, that’s usually a whole other type of audition on the drumkit (no timpani required!). Another thought: a stand-alone conservatory will typically place more weight on the audition and less on gpa. Although I mentioned Paterson as they have an excellent percussion program and seem to have lower gpa requirements. Also, even conservatories have English and other liberal arts requirements. My son’s at NEC and I’m impressed by the quality of those classes. Lots of papers being written!

Overall my advice would be to read this forum whenever you can and come back often. Read the sticky threads to help understand the process. Ask specific questions when you have them. The music school admissions process is very different from standard admissions, and this forum has been the single best source I have found for information and advice, due to the helpful, experienced parents here.

Does your son have some idea of his music career goals? That will help narrow down the choices. Also remember that at many schools, music applicants are not held to quite the same academic standards as the main admissions pool, though it varies by school. The audition is the most important part of the application. Don’t rule out a school completely based on stats at this point, call or email the school of music if you aren’t sure to see if there are minimum GPA/test scores a music student should aim for. Some schools explicitly state the minimums on their music admissions web site.

Have him choose senior year courses carefully - senior year is not the time for a music applicant to load up on rigorous courses. Be conservative.

FYI my son (though he has a good GPA) doesn’t want to take more English or math or science classes in college, either, but we have found that even conservatories will require a certain amount of general education classes, often roughly one per semester. I think all schools we looked at required at least one English writing class. Some states may have laws requiring degree granting institutions to have a certain amount of gen ed classes, too. Music schools that are part of a larger university usually have the broadest general ed requirements, sometimes that amounts to 2 classes per semester. It really depends on the school. We have been looking into that right now, because it will definitely be a factor in my son’s decision this spring. Many music schools put academic advising sheets and course catalogs online if you go to the academic section of a music school school’s web site. Those will show you a sample of what coursework a typical major would take in each semester. Some schools have very specific classes that fulfill gen ed requirements, others just have broad categories and the student has a lot of choice. You can also google “core curriculum” plus the school name to looks at general ed requirements at universities.

You may want to look primarily at conservatories to minimize the amount of gen ed courses, but many of them are very hard to get into, so if your son wants to be competitive for those he probably needs an experienced private teacher to help him work on audition prep and to select target schools that might be a good fit. If you aren’t sure where your son stands, skill wise, you might want to ask the percussion group leader or pay for a lesson with a professor at a nearby college or a top teacher to assess his skills and perhaps make some suggestions on schools and what he needs to work on. Some colleges offer mock audition days for juniors in the spring. If he can attend any of those he might get some valuable feedback and get a better idea of the audition process, even if he doesn’t end up applying to that particular school. Some schools also have music major “shadow days” which will give prospective students a bit more of an idea what studying music is like.

Shenandoah Conservatory might be worth a look - it is a little less competitive on many instruments, supposedly has a good jazz program, seems to be very forgiving on stats (based on Common Data set and one very low GPA/test score student we know who went there for jazz studies), and they supposedly offer merit to most students they accept. U of North Texas also is worth a look - great reputation for jazz, and often very affordable with many students qualifying for in state tuition. I don’t know anything about their gen ed requirements.

Also think about your family’s budget for your student now, before you pick schools to apply to. Look at the Financial Aid forum here at CC. Run the FAFSA4caster tool to get an idea of your family’s EFC so you can see if you can afford your EFC. Run the net price calculator at target schools, though unless it is a conservatory, most don’t account for music merit awards, which can be significant at some schools. This forum is a good source to find out which schools have a good reputation for merit.

Good luck!

Good advice @classicalsaxmom. Looks like Shenandoah has conservatory open houses during spring break. Other schools will too. But you have to register in advance.

@classicalsaxmom,

My daughter is interested in UNT as well. What do you mean when you say that many students qualify for in-state tuition? Obviously, we do not live in the Great State of Texas (but if saying things like that will get us in-state tuition, I will just pose in front of some bluebells and sing The Stars at Night)!

If UNT awards you a competitive scholarship of $1,000 or more, you automatically get your base tuition reduced to the in-state rate.

@rks1205 yep - this ^^ is what I meant.

You might want to read the “Double Degree Dilemma” above, which details different ways to study music.

Generally, a BM program will be 2/3-3/4 music, and a BA program will be 1/4-1/3 music. It sounds like your son will be a perfect example of a prospective BM student, whether at a freestanding conservatory or a music school/conservatory at a college or university. For the latter, academics may matter more.

Be aware that some schools are test-optional (regarding SAT’s and ACT) if that is an issue: http://fairtest.org/university/optional I know Berklee is on there for one.

Many of us will tell you our kids soared when they went outside their schools for music, whether at a conservatory prep, an intensive, private lessons or an ensemble or orchestra. You may already be doing some driving for this!

I think a summer program could be very clarifying for your son, and also enhance his skills (and chances). Others can suggest some but here are a few examples:
Oberlin http://new.oberlin.edu/office/summer-programs/index/percussion/index.dot deadline May 1
Berklee ( 3 days) https://www.berklee.edu/summer/programs/percussion
Berklee ( 5 weeks) https://www.berklee.edu/five-week-summer-program/curriculum-0
Inerlochen http://camp.interlochen.org/program/music/hs/percussion
NYU http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/music/summer/sandbox

Juililard, NYU, Indiana, Beinen at U. Michigan, W. Va. U. also have programs, as do some other schools: just google “summer percussion programs”

for the future https://sopercussion.com/education/summer-institute/ (New music)

There are of course different ways to go with percussion and presumably undergrad would be foundational, but I don’t know that much about some of the genres, not much at all. Traditional classical, contemporary classical (“new music”), jazz, rock, popular, . band, musical theater, etc.

I know most about “new music>” Three interesting percussionists are James Beauton, Nathan Davis and Eric Guinivan. The latter two are also composers. These percussionists are at the experimental end of contemporary classical, a genre not written much about here but one that is strong in some conservatories and university music departments. Your son might like to look these artists up :slight_smile: He might also enjoy works by Steve Reick and Inuksuit by John Luther Adams. These can all be googled easily. Just a thought!

Any school you look at will have Liberal Arts requirements if your son is looking for a Degree.

@rks1205 wrote: we do not live in the Great State of Texas (but if saying things like that will get us in-state tuition, I will just pose in front of some bluebells and sing The Stars at Night)!

Actually, its bluebonnets, and the name of the song is Deep in the Heart of Texas. You need to learn the claps that go with the song in order to qualify for residency.

Bless your heart!
;))

My d had a decent gpa and graduated with honors but is HORRIBLE at testing. She also wanted to focus on on performance vice a standard liberal arts education. While I am not familiar with the instrumental requirements, the vp program at university of Hartford (hartt) has very few liberal arts requirements and from what I’ve heard they have a decent jazz program. Might be worth a look.

@rks1205 You can get in state tuition at UNT if you have a certain GPA and SAT scores. Check it out on their website. Not sure why some people on CC have to be so snarky in their comments to you.

“Could someone please provide options and suggestions for further study beyond HS we can consider?”

I think that where you are physically, where your son would prefer to be (like east coast, west coast, north, south, big city, …), and how much you can pay are important considerations. This might impact which schools make the most sense.

As one example, I have met a few people who were either past or currently students at the Berklee College of Music in Boston. The students that I heard play (or played with) were consistently very good. It is a well known top choice for someone for whom music is what they want, and is very strong at music. I am under the impression that other academic requirements are not too demanding, and that an unweighted GPA of 2.5 will be okay there. The audition will be very important and probably the main consideration for admission. However, it is not inexpensive. Apparently they do have some scholarships, but I have met at least one person who had to drop out for financial reasons.

https://www.berklee.edu/admissions/undergraduate

Another thought: If you drop by a good music store, there is a good chance that you can find people who would be willing to chat about options.