Looking for state flagships for a well-rounded kid with good SATs and OK grades

<p>Here's the deal: my brother is currently applying to colleges and is primarily interested in state flagship schools (or rough equivalents) that will give some amount of scholarship money (maybe OOS tuition wavers or enough to make them equal in cost to VA publics) for the following stats:</p>

<p>~1900 SAT, 3.2 GPA, solid ECs (writes for the newspaper, plays lax, job during the school year and summer), solid essays and, from what I hear, pretty good recs. His search is quite different from mine several years ago so any help is appreciated. Thanks!</p>

<p>Indiana University? Maryland? What major is he gonna be?</p>

<p>I think he’s interested in something along the lines of foreign affairs, politics or journalism, but he’ll probably add a second major in business or economics so he’ll be employable after he graduates.</p>

<p>university of oregon has a good business and journalism program.</p>

<p>Does it meet the other criterion I listed (generosity with scholarship money)?</p>

<p>what state is he from? VA you said?</p>

<p>How about Virginia Tech?</p>

<p>Yea, we’re from VA.</p>

<p>20LEGEND, he’s looking at VT and JMU, but he’d like other options. The other schools in VA aren’t in the picture.</p>

<p>Hmm. Purdue? Indiana Bloomington?</p>

<p>University of South Carolina, NCState University, Clemson University, University of Georgia.</p>

<p>Delaware is a lot like JMU (size, student body composite, CAA conference sports), but OOS applicants rarely receive much financial aid there or at most other out-of-state public schools. Lacrosse scholarships are as rare as hen’s teeth with only twelve Division I scholarships divided among as many as 36 players (1/3 scholarship per player). Division I Men’s Lacrosse is only played at “56” universities but only “14” of these are public schools: “3” SUNY campuses (Albany, Binghamton & Stony Brook); “3” MD campuses (MD, Towson (also CAA member) & UMBC); Delaware; UVA; UNC; Rutgers; Penn State; Ohio State; UMASS (also CAA member) & Vermont. It is not played at V. Tech or JMU. A recruited athlete applicant does receive favorable consideration, so a good option may be a Division III LAC that while not offering athletic scholarships, will often offer good aid packages.</p>

<p>Thanks for the suggestions everyone, but could you please elaborate about whether those schools give scholarship money of any kind to someone with his stats? TYIA.</p>

<p>Lol who said anything about being recruited as a D1 athlete? Lol. He just happens to play lax on the school team.</p>

<p>cavalier- I think you may be underestimating how selective state flagship admissions are.
from my area of Long Island, kids with 1900 SAT’s and a 3.2, do NOT get admitted to U Maryland or Delaware. They are also not “slam dunks” for their own SUNY university centers of Bing. Buffalo etc.
Though some schools may want to increase their OOS population, I think it very doubtful that he would get scholarship money from schools like Maryland, Delaware and SUNY.
Some states have reciprocal tuition agreements with neighboring areas, so you may want to check it out.
I am not as familiar with admissions for the other state schools listed, but state U’s are not that generous with merit funds going to OOS kids unless they are very strong students.</p>

<p>SAT of 1900 and scholarship? Hmmmm…tough call. I doubt it. First of all, state schools dont give out many scholarships and if they do, they are usually whoppers like the Jefferson at UVa or the Morehead at UNC and those are pretty much reserved for kids who are valedictorians and have 2300 plus SAT scores. 1900 is a good score, but its not an elite score. 2100 is often the cutoff for scholarship money at many colleges, though some lower ranking 2nd tier and 3rd tier schools might offer money to attract you. </p>

<p>That being said, many offer very healthy financial aid packages in the form of GRANTS IN AID, which are just like scholarships but not prestigious, its free money. So who cares? </p>

<p>There are all kinds of outside scholarships you can apply for as well, though you have to declare those and that may impact the financial aid package they offer you. Sometimes the financial aid packages at private colleges can make the price of admission similar to the cost of attendance at a state school.</p>

<p>Look for example at Elon University in North Carolina, which has a all sorts of scholarship and financial aid packages out there. They may even have a lacrosse team. </p>

<p>On the other hand, I see nothing wrong with VaTech and JMU. Great values particularly for in state kids.</p>

<p>I personally feel VT would be his best match. He should be able to get in, plus you pay instate tuition. Are you looking for a school better than VT? 'cause I doubt he’ll get merit aid at one that is …</p>

<p>Ditto Marny1’s response. Here are a few links. While he might have a chance of admission to Delaware, especially if his grades had an upward trend, he’s not in the range for the honors problem or merit scholarship. Maryland’s even tougher.
[University</a> of Maryland - Freshman Profile Information](<a href=“http://www.uga.umd.edu/admissions/counselor/freshmanprofile.asp]University”>http://www.uga.umd.edu/admissions/counselor/freshmanprofile.asp)
[Freshman</a> Applicants: Freshman Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.admissions.udel.edu/apply/freshmanprofile.shtml]Freshman”>http://www.admissions.udel.edu/apply/freshmanprofile.shtml)
[Finance:</a> Scholarships and Financial Aid](<a href=“http://admissions.udel.edu/finance/scholandfinaid.shtml]Finance:”>http://admissions.udel.edu/finance/scholandfinaid.shtml)
From a financial point of view the VA instate options are probably your brother’s best bet.</p>

<p>I realize that there are more competitive state flagships like Maryland. It’s absolutely a moot point. But what about other notable state schools like U of Alabama, U of Arizona, Purdue, etc? Many of those are larger and less competitive. And when I mentioned possible scholarship money, I wasn’t talking about one of the sw33t full rides like the Jefferson at UVA. I was just talking about one of the ones that knocks OOS tuition down to the instate rate for certain kids. When I was looking at colleges I remember reading about schools that did that (maybe Alabama and South Carolina?), but I wasn’t considering schools in that range. His SAT score isn’t elite, but again, it seems like I remember the ~1300 M+V range being the cutoff for the low-level scholarships.</p>

<p>My brother’s top two choices at the moment at JMU and VT, which are very much peer schools in VA and the best choices for someone who can’t get into UVA, W&M, W&L or Richmond (not worth the cost anyway). The rest of the VA schools are not worth considering.</p>

<p>I thought I read on these boards that Clemson reduced tuition for some OOS kids, but that student had very solid stats!</p>

<p>for politics and journalism, wouldn’t George Mason be a school to consider??</p>

<p>How about a good LAC with Div. III lacrosse and less competition for aid than applying OOS at any state flagship? Ursinus, Goucher, Hamden-Sydney, Susquehanna, Washington & Jefferson, Wells, Randolph-Macon and Hood OR non-LAC U. of Mary Washington are suggestions. Historically female Goucher, Wells and Hood may be particularly interested in a strong male applicants. Just transitioned Randolph also comes to mind but does not have lacrosse.</p>

<p>If he’s interested in journalism, how about the University of Missouri - Columbia? The J School is one of the best in the country and here’s a scholarship for non-resident entering freshman that he might qualify for:</p>

<p>Mark Twain Nonresident Scholarship*</p>

<p>Minimum qualifications:</p>

<p>Top 25 percent of high school graduating class.
Composite ACT score of 27 or above (or a combined critical reading and math SAT score of 1200 or above).
U.S. Citizen or Permanent Resident.
Non-Missouri resident.
Enroll at MU the first semester after high school graduation.
Award amount: Varies according to scores:
Composite ACT 27-29 (or a combined critical reading and math SAT score of 1200-1310)= $4,000 per year.
Composite ACT 30-36 (or a combined critical reading and math SAT score of 1320-1600)= $5,500 per year.
May be canceled or reduced if nonresident tuition is waived or paid by another source.</p>

<p>Application procedure: No application required as you are automatically considered once you are admitted to MU.</p>

<p>Renewal: Renewable for an additional 3 years based on completion of 24 credits each academic year at MU with a 2.5 minimum MU cumulative grade point average. Click here for detailed renewal requirements.</p>