<p>Hello everyone,
I am a high school student in Turkey and I am thinking of studying Law or International Relations. I need to know which colleges (especially from Ivy League) have undergraduate programs for these studies and also whether they provide financial aid for international students.</p>
<p>Here are two lists of schools with the best financial aid for international students:</p>
<p>[Top</a> 25 Financial Aid Colleges in US for International Students (Need-aware)](<a href=“http://www.desperateguide.com/us/top-25-financial-aid-colleges-in-us-for-international-students-need-aware]Top”>http://www.desperateguide.com/us/top-25-financial-aid-colleges-in-us-for-international-students-need-aware)
[Top</a> 6 Need-blind Colleges in US for International Students](<a href=“http://www.desperateguide.com/us/top-6-need-blind-colleges-in-us-for-international-students]Top”>http://www.desperateguide.com/us/top-6-need-blind-colleges-in-us-for-international-students)</p>
<p>Note that all are private schools, not public. Also observe that many in the first list are small, selective liberal arts colleges (LACs). These are schools with no graduate programs (or very few); usually, they have fewer than 3000 students.</p>
<p>In the United States, there is no such thing as an undergraduate law degree. You go to law school after college to get a law degree. You can major in virtually any field to prepare for law school. You can major in one of many fields (such as political science, history, or economics), not necessarily IR, to prepare for graduate studies in IR.</p>
<p>Schools with highly regarded International Relations programs include Georgetown, Princeton, Johns Hopkins, and Tufts.</p>
<p>tugberk,</p>
<p>If you haven’t already done so, you need to read through everything at [EducationUSA</a> | Study Abroad, Student Visa, University Fairs, College Applications and Study in the U.S. / America](<a href=“http://www.educationusa.info/]EducationUSA”>http://www.educationusa.info/) Then you need to make an appointment with the counselors at the advising center closest to you. There are two in Turkey: [EducationUSA</a> - Find an Advising Center](<a href=“http://www.educationusa.info/Turkey]EducationUSA”>http://www.educationusa.info/Turkey) These counselors are expert at helping students from your country find good places to study in the US. They will be able to tell you where students like you have been admitted in the past few years, and whether or not those students received any financial aid.</p>
<p>You also should spend some time in the International Students Forum: [International</a> Students - College Confidential](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/]International”>International Students - College Confidential Forums) You will find a lot of useful information there. Look for anything by b@r!um who is the resident expert on financial matters, and pay attention to posts by EducationUSAtips. </p>
<p>As always, you need to sit down with your parents (or whoever it is who will be helping you pay for your education), and find out just exactly how much money will be available. That way you will know if you do need to look for scholarships, and how much will be necessary.</p>
<p>For UG, there is no Law school in the USA. Law School is only offered at Graduate Level. Just about any UG major can apply for Law Schools. </p>
<p>Regarding IR, all Ivies have some kind of degree in that discipling, if you are a tipy top student in Turkey(ie, all A’s, 2400 SAT, National Honors… etc.), you are welcome to apply for it.</p>
<p>The schools that give great FA for int’ls are super, super hard to get accepted to. And, some are “need aware”…which means that if you have need, then it’s even harder to get into.</p>
<p>And, if you are one of the few lucky ones to be admitted, the school decides what aid to give you AFTER it looks at all of your family finances, assets, income, etc. </p>
<p>There is no undergrad in law. Law is a graduate major…after undergrad. You can get your undergrad in any major. </p>
<p>What are your stats? They need to be amazing for a better chance at these top schools that give FA to int’ls.</p>
<p>There are some other schools that give merit scholarships to int’ls…but those aren’t usually free rides…your family would still have to pay for some costs.</p>
<p>How much will your family pay?</p>
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<p>The ones that are need-blind for internationals are indeed extremely selective.
Of the ones on the “Top 25” list I cited above, some are and some aren’t. The most selective ones are Stanford, Penn, Brown, Williams, Swarthmore, and Pomona.</p>
<p>It’s a little hard to tell for sure about the rest, because the Common Data Set files do not break out all the admission and aid details for internationals. For domestic students with good grades and scores (>= 3.5 & 2100), schools like Macalester, Smith and Bates are not extremely selective. Judging from the high percentage of int’ls who get big aid packages, I assume they must not be extremely selective for internationals, either.</p>
<p>Thanks to everyone for your interest.</p>
<p>My family says that they can pay at most 10,000 per year. Also my grades are all A’s and I have awards from international conferences such as MUN. Am I able to get academical scholarship by these colleges you mentioned?</p>
<p>what are your sat and tofel scores? What National/International honors have you gotten? Is it first place? MUN may not be good enough. You can go to each schools forum on CC and compare your stats against those have been successful and see it yourself. All in all, you always can apply and if successful, you will be rewarded.</p>
<p>*My family says that they can pay at most 10,000 per year. Also my grades are all A’s and I have awards from international conferences such as MUN. Am I able to get academical scholarship by these colleges you mentioned? *</p>
<p>The schools mentioned above don’t give academic scholarships…they give need-based grants after looking at the family income/assets/etc. So, the school decides how much your family should pay. </p>
<p>There are other schools that might give you a full tuition scholarship, depending on your M+CR SAT score or ACT score.</p>
<p>What are your test scores?</p>
<p>I haven’t had the tests yet. Would it be better if I had IELTS instead of TOEFL?</p>
<p>Toefl is more recognized in the USA, no matter, if you get near perfect scores on everything(Toefl, Ielts, SAT I &II, ACT), and you can show outstanding achievements in at least ONE of the international recognized competitions, you will have a better chance.</p>
<p>"Am I able to get academical scholarship by these colleges you mentioned? "
There are no academic Scholarships offered at Stanford, Penn, Brown, Williams, Swarthmore, and Pomona.
U.Southern Calif [ USNWR # 25] </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.usc.edu/[/url]”>http://www.usc.edu/</a></p>
<p>is one of the only top US Universities that has 1/2 [ International Freshman Academic Scholarship] to FULL tuition scholarships [Mork Family Scholarship] for top International students. Complete your application to USC by no later than Dec 1 in order to qualify for scholarship consideration. Do not miss this deadline.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/private/docs/1112/uscScholarships1213.pdf[/url]”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/private/docs/1112/uscScholarships1213.pdf</a></p>
<p>USC also has a School of International Relations, not just a dept.
IR is one of the most popular majors in our College, currently serving some 800 students, who are laying foundations for graduate education and careers in business, government and nonprofit organizations.<br>
[Home</a> > School of International Relations > USC Dana and David Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences](<a href=“http://dornsife.usc.edu/sir]Home”>http://dornsife.usc.edu/sir)</p>
<p>[International</a> Students - USC Undergraduate Admission](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/apply/inter_students.html]International”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/apply/inter_students.html)</p>
<p>I think Chicago is the highest ranked school that has full tuition merit scholarship, based on USNWR rankings. They only offer 20 each class of 1500. You still have to pay $12000 for the first year R&B, after that you may live off campus.</p>
<p>^ but I dont think Chicago’s merit scholarships are offered to international students.
USC offers 200+ full tuition merit scholarships to each class of 2950. I’m not sure how many 1/2 tuition International scholarships are awarded each year.</p>
<p>for ivy league schools, UPenn has a really great IR/business program called Huntsman. It’s a very prestigious dual degree program where you graduate in 4 years with two degrees–in IR and business from Wharton</p>
<p>I have a few questions left.</p>
<p>What I understood is, my parents have to pay something anyway and there is no chance of getting full tuition scholarship for the best colleges in the US, am I right?</p>
<p>Moreover, is it really hard to get a scholarship as I am an international student? What kind of scores/achievements/competitions could increase my chance of getting a good scholarship?</p>
<p>Finally, which “top” colleges do you suggest for International Relations, Law and Politics? (And also the ones which I could have a good scholarship)</p>
<p>Yes, to your first question.</p>
<p>Yes, to your second question. For IVYs, probably more than 2200 SAT. These schools are very difficult to get into, even for Americans with high SAT scores. </p>
<p>Don’t get fixated on top colleges, there are schools like BYU (cheap, but very religious) with good IR programs that you can afford.</p>
<p><a href=“http://kennedy.byu.edu/[/url]”>http://kennedy.byu.edu/</a></p>
<p>What about Law, Politics and also IR? Could you suggest me more colleges?</p>
<p>Law is a graduate program in America; this means you apply to law school after your undergraduate degree.</p>
<p>This website will give you more info about the process:</p>
<p>[LSAC</a> - Applying to Law School](<a href=“http://www.lsac.org/jd/diversity/minorities-in-legal-education-applying-to-ls.asp]LSAC”>http://www.lsac.org/jd/diversity/minorities-in-legal-education-applying-to-ls.asp)</p>
<p>For Political Science, these are the top programs (borrowed from Alexandre)</p>
<p>Columbia University
Cornell University
Duke University
Emory University
Harvard University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
New York University
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of California-Berkeley
University of California-Los Angeles
University of California-San Diego
University of Chicago
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
University of Rochester
Washington University-St Louis
Yale University</p>
<p>Sorry, I don’t know much about undergraduate IR programs. The advise I can give you is go to the school you can afford. You can probably get the top 100 schools from US News and spend some time to check them individually to see whether they have political science and undergraduate IR programs.</p>
<p>[National</a> University Rankings | Top National Universities | US News Best Colleges](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/spp+50]National”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/spp+50)</p>
<p>some schools will waive Toefl if you score high on SAT like this:</p>
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Check with the school you want to apply to.</p>