Low enrollment of low-income kids at elite schools

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<p>5/2/05 </p>

<p>Class Conscious </p>

<p>Low-income students have long been a rare and invisible minority at elite colleges. That may be about to change. </p>

<p>By Justin Ewers </p>

<p>Before Jamie Sparano arrived at Princeton University as a freshman last fall, she didn't think she was that unusual. Her father, a New Jersey building contractor with a community-college degree, makes close to the national median family income, which is roughly $51,000. Her stay-at-home mom never attended college. Most of the families she knew at Ewing High School on the outskirts of Trenton looked a lot like hers. </p>

<p>Princeton, though, was different. She'd expected the old stone buildings and expansive lawns, of course. But the school was also dotted with BMWs and students in Polo and Lacoste. Prep-schoolers seemed to rule the dorms. Sparano quickly discovered she wasn't quite as normal as she thought, at least by Princeton standards: She was a strong student, sure--1420 on her SAT, graduated fifth in her class. But she just didn't have the same background as most of her classmates. Everyone's parents seemed to be Ivy-educated doctors and lawyers. Nearly half of her peers had attended private schools, while over 85 percent came from households making more than the median family income. More than 1 in 10 students had a parent who'd gone to Princeton. </p>

<p>Wealth and privilege quickly made their presence felt. When her roommate, early in the year, told her she was going out to get "a cheap school bag" and came home with one that cost $80, Sparano's jaw dropped. She found herself turning down invitations to go out to restaurants with her friends because she couldn't afford it. In class, she seemed to be a voice in the wilderness: When a professor in one small discussion group asked the class why they thought people joined the military, the wealthier kids, she says, started talking about duty and how prestigious the military academies were: "I was like, let's be honest," she says. "I know like a dozen people from my own high school who enlisted, and they did it to get out of Ewing!" In another seminar, while discussing a book on the working poor, a student commented that no one in the room could understand such people since Princeton families all made six-, seven-, or eight-figure incomes. Sparano could barely contain herself: "Maybe there are a small minority of us here," she replied, "but some of us do know how the other half lives." </p>

<p>Overshadowed. Not many, however. In a book published last week and already making waves in college admissions circles, William Bowen, the former president of Princeton and current head of the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, finds that students with family incomes lower than Sparano's are even harder to find on elite college campuses: Only 11 percent of the undergrads at 19 selective public and private schools he studied--ranging from Princeton and Williams to the University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign--come from the bottom income quartile nationally (about $27,000 a year and under). Only 6 percent are the first in their families to go to college. The same goes for other schools as well: At the nation's 146 most selective colleges and universities, according to another study last year, there are 25 high-income students (from families making $77,000 and above) for every first-generation student from the lowest income bracket. </p>

<p>For Bowen and a group of would-be reformers, it's just about time that changed. Race and ethnicity may have dominated the admissions landscape for years, but when the Supreme Court gave the nod to certain forms of race-based affirmative action in 2003, some of higher education's biggest thinkers began casting about (at long last, some would say) for ways to increase access for another campus minority--low-income students. In the past year and a half, the presidents of Harvard, Yale, and the University of Virginia, among others, have announced major changes to their financial aid packages in an effort to attract more needy students. Supporters of class-based affirmative action are starting to demand admissions boosts for the underprivileged. So the Next Big Question after race seems to be increasingly clear: Why are there are so few low-income students on college campuses--and what else can be done about it? </p>

<p>For many admissions officers, the stock answer has long been that there is simply not a large enough pool of academically qualified low-income students. Performance on standardized tests, class rank, grade-point average--all are highly correlated with family income and parental education. Low-income applicants, as a group, don't do well on any of them. "I just don't know how they're admissible in much higher numbers than we already have," says Don Davis, associate director for student financial services at the University of Texas-Austin, one of the state's elite universities, where undergraduates' median family income hovers around $80,000. "It's not something we can change." </p>

<p>Bowen, the author of several influential works supportive of race-based affirmative action and critical of low academic standards for college athletes, disagrees. In his new book, Equity and Excellence in American Higher Education, he insists that there really is a substantial pool of low-income applicants who have what it takes to succeed at the nation's most selective schools. Some of them may not look as good on paper as do more affluent applicants, Bowen acknowledges. Still, his data show they have great academic potential and that admissions officers aren't doing what they could to give promising low-income kids an extra nudge in the process. </p>

<p>After all, alumni children, jocks, and minorities get a helping hand: Recruited athletes with combined SAT scores from 1250 to 1299, for example, are admitted 77 percent of the time at the 19 schools Bowen studied. Blacks and Latinos with the same scores enjoy a 66 percent admit rate; alumni kids, or legacies, 51 percent. Nonminority, low-income applicants in that SAT range, however, are admitted only 37 percent of the time--exactly the same rate as the rest of the nonminority applicant pool. Admissions officers may think they're already doing all they can to admit low-income kids, he says, "but as an overall statistical statement, they're just wrong." </p>

<p>Outsiders. And more than a few low-income students, as a result, feel like fish out of water on campuses that pride themselves on being inclusive and diverse. For some, collegiate culture shock can be triggered by something as simple as a haircut. Princeton freshman Thomas Tullius Jr., whose widowed mother lives on a pension of about $30,000 a year, ended up cutting his own hair when he found out his classmates were paying nearly $30--seemingly nonchalantly--at one barbershop near campus. For others, the tensions run deeper still. When Jose Silva, a 2004 grad of the University of Denver who grew up in a housing project on the city's west side, transferred in as a junior from a community college, "I didn't really have a whole lot of friends," he says. He hung out with the basketball team, mostly, and discovered that his firsthand experience with urban violence and poverty made it hard to relate to his more-sheltered classmates. Especially in public-policy classes or discussions of crime and punishment, Silva says, "my view of what life is like is totally not their . . . view." </p>

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<p>Aid. So what next? While it's clear that K-12 reform is the key to building a bigger pool, in the shorter run offering an edge in the admissions process may be the fastest way of increasing low-income numbers. At the same time, cash-strapped students need to know that there are schools willing to give them a generous assist with the financial burden of college. Already, a number of schools, including Yale, the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, and the University of Virginia, have announced no-loan policies for low-income students--with some dramatic results. Since Princeton began its no-loan program (which is open to all undergrads), for instance, its freshman class has included almost twice as many students from families making less than the median family income--from 88 in 1998 to 161 last year. Undergrads like Jamie Sparano and Thomas Tullius Jr. may still feel outnumbered, says Janet Rapelye, Princeton's dean of admissions, but "we've been trying to pay more attention." </p>

<p>Most schools, though, say scarce resources on campus mean that outside financial help--perhaps from the federal government--will be needed before they can create more socioeconomic diversity. For now, transparency may be the best anyone can hope for. Researchers at the Century Foundation are looking at ways to put a spotlight on economic diversity--by asking schools to routinely report the number of low-income students they have on campus, for instance, just as they do for racial minorities. These figures could be instructive: Only 7 percent of Princeton students, for example, receive Pell Grants targeted at low-income students, compared with 16 percent at Amherst and 35 percent at the University of California-Los Angeles. </p>

<p>Students like Sparano, meanwhile, will most likely continue to feel like lone emissaries of the working class, outnumbered at elite schools. Yet the experience, says Sparano, has given her fresh pride in her roots. "For all the times I'm frustrated with people," Sparano says, "I'm glad just as much that I'm bringing a little of [my background] to Princeton." Some solace, perhaps, for a once forgotten minority that may not be forgotten for much longer. </p>

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<p>As for the girl from Ewing who said she couldn't afford to go out with her friends at Princeton, I think that was sad. If she can't afford activities on campus, just where is she gonna get the money (other than secure a part-time job and work her ass off?) If she can't afford the school, don't go there. I'm certainly not poor, but I know I had to secure a job just to survive on a montly basis. You will be amazed how students spend over $200 a month on-campus.</p>

<p>But seriously, how much is the cost of living in Princeton?</p>

<p>Thanks for posting the article, tenisghs.<br>
I've long thought that one of the biggest issues facing low income students is not financial aid per se but discretionary spending money. It does not get factored in, but it really affects the quality of the college experience. For ex, my S went to listen to some a capella groups during pre-frosh weekend; some groups had their members wearing suits. Going out for a restaurant meal, taking in a movie with roommates, all that can add up.
But I hope that students who come from different backgrounds from the majority of their classmates don't give up or shut up. Those classmates of theirs need to learn about different lives and different people.</p>

<p>Yeah marite, that's one thing I noticed about these elite schools. There are so many opportunities, but everything comes with a cost. It can be hard for someone who is used to saving money all of sudden has to spend money just to be on par with their peers. It's a really sad situation. And colleges can't only reimburse low-income students with spending money. That would be unfair as well. That is why colleges have been more reluctant to enroll more low-income students.</p>

<p>I don't think colleges have been reluctant to enroll more low-income students because of this. They do watch their bottom line and will always court development prospects, of course. I think one way they can help out is to create more opportunities for free entertainment and other activities and perhaps encourage less formal attire for performances. For example, in some a capella groups, the students wore suits; in others; they wore ordinary clothes.</p>

<p>There was a Wall Street Journal article a few years back about a low income student at Duke. As Marite says the discretionary spending money is a big problem for such kids and also for kids whose parents just won't give much of an allowance despite income levels that could support it. My good friend was from a well to do family, and her tuition and basic expenses were covered in full, but neither parent (divorced and both remarried) would give a dime in discretionary income, nor did she have much opportunity to work and make money while living with them as they jealously shared custody. So she worked the whole time she was at college just so she could join in for a pizza or movie, or just buy a necessity at the campus store without asking her parents for the money. They literally dropped her off at school without a penny--no bank account, no card. She was stocked with what they felt she needed and told to call if she needed anything, and to try to anticipate. THey would send checks in the amounts of $5-$10 as she wrote she was low on necessities or would send a care package before they would send money. And she worked on the sly as they did not want her doing so--she was supposed to be doing studies only. Crazy? Yeah, but true. </p>

<p>These days I think it is tougher for kids. I know at my alma mater, we all ate at the cafeteria as much as we despised the food, as there were not many other choices. A place open just during the day which was expensive and just as lousy in quality where you paid a la carte, the snack bar with limited and low quality choices and snacks, and just a few off campus places, most of them pricey or not so hot in quality. A pizza or Chinese place and maybe a subshop were the only reasonalby priced options nearby. How things have changed! Now there are a number of eateries in the area both university owned and you can use dining dollars to eat there, and private places as well. Several pizzarias, cafes, sub shops, delis, food chains, you name it. Also many little shops just clamoring to take your money. And several bars, coffee shops, including Starbucks, all within walking distance around the university. All chock full of students. Kids just don't cook as much any more there, even the ones in apartments because it seems like they all have more money than we did. I remember in my dorm, of the 14 girls on that floor, only 4 had plenty of money. The rest of us were on budgets, some tighter than others, but we just could not eat out or go out on the town the way these kids are doing at this very same school. We spent a homecoming weekend there for reunion, a few years ago and this difference really stood out to me. My good friend who went to NYU told me that when she went there 30 years ago, the poor student stereotype was alive and well. You just did not see the students and artist enjoying the cafes, bars, restaraunts like they are these days. We stopped at a student laden ice cream shop that day, and were shocked at what 2 simple cones ran us there. But the line was out the door and they were mostly students since we were in the heart of NYU. Also our clothers were so cheap then, as the hippy era had its influence on the fashions. The day of designer labels was yet to come. When I see what these kids are wearing and mentally add up the cost, it is surprising to me as I well know the full cost of a NYU education. And I see the expensive backpacks with the laptop, the Northface attire, the top quality shoes, and well, you have one expensive kid there. And I am standing there in my Cosco and Salvation Army clothes though I can afford to send one to such a school! And I am not just jumping on those kids, as mine are in that mindset as well. My D who has always been thrifty has jumped on the designer line train for her purchases these days, even as she and her financee are trying to figure out how to pay for med school, apartment, another year of her undergrad, etc. Her sunglasseses. her shoes, her bag, end up to a pretty penny.</p>

<p>It can be very stressful to attend a school where you see the glaring differences between students from high and low income families. Sometimes low income students are left feeling that they are not able to take in all that the college offers because they cannot afford to participate. This is also compounded if the student attends school in a high cost of living area, NYC, Boston etc. This is not only the plight of the low-income but the middle income as well because many are paying full freight for tuition-room and board and it also leaves limited money for discretionary spending.</p>

<p>As I stated many times before, what I love about Williams is their concept of no hidden cost. Once you arrive on campus, activities are priced so that all can attend without a financial squeeze. </p>

<p>Beleive it or not, you don't have to go to every party, attend every event. Some people find a great balance of finding their niche in doing things that they really enjoy and saving money at the same time.</p>

<p>Some of our kids have already faced this situation while still in high school. It is sometimes painful for a 17 yo not to be able to go out to lunch with friends after church: when one family finds even a drive-thru burger an extravagance, the child is not going to be able to "keep up" with the kids who have the parents' credit card to do lunch or go out for dinner in a sit down restaurant several times a week. </p>

<p>My kids are lucky, in a way. They can all three remember when a "treat" lunch out was mom and the three of them splitting a 9-piece box of chicken nuggets, with water as our beverage. </p>

<p>Things are not quite as tight for us now, (a good thing, too, because 2 chicken nuggets won't fill up a 19 yo boy) but I still have to watch it when it comes to a latte, or a drive thru sandwich, more than once every week or two weeks. </p>

<p>My kids have some discretionary money now, from jobs, but they understand that when it's gone, it's gone; and they know how quickly it goes. The olders were not ashamed in school to say, "Sorry, I just can't afford that."</p>

<p>"I've long thought that one of the biggest issues facing low income students is not financial aid per se but discretionary spending money. It does not get factored in, but it really affects the quality of the college experience."</p>

<p>It's actually more than this, as Ruth Simmons at Brown has pointed out. Many low-income students have to work part-time in order to send funds home to their families (and work summers for that purpose, too.) So while it is nice when schools lower (or eliminate) loan expectations, these moves primarily impact middle income kids (remember, median household income is $49k), not so much the poor ones. (Loans have a greater impact on whether they will consider graduate or professional school.)</p>

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Many low-income students have to work part-time in order to send funds home to their families

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How many??</p>

<p>I have a question:</p>

<p>Would you consider students of families with gross incomes between $65,000 - $100,000 well-off? I ask becausefinancial aid treats that as above the average American income and needs less assistance. However, you also have students coming from familes who make $250,000+ and even in the millions! That group alone can represent up to 20-25% of the student population.</p>

<p>Students in the $65,000 - $100,000 category have to work or seek additional help just like those who are low-income. The situation is not as bad, but it is not a walk in the park either.</p>

<p>It can be an issue in highschool, middle school, elementary school, if a kid does not have what his peers have. My son who is a freshman was taken for a "ride" by scholarship kids at his school to a subshop. He left his money in his backpack at school, so couldn't eat. But, you know,he did not have enough to buy more than a soda or chips with what those subs cost. We are paying full tuition for him but he had no money, no cell phone no car, whereas the kids who were on full rides at the school had all three. I don't give my kids discretionary cash in highschool. They can eat for free at the cafeteria, and can pack a waterbottle or use their own money to buy drinks or snacks from the machines or snack shop. I am not interested in them going off campus for any reason. </p>

<p>Driver, though I don't know how many low income students need to send funds home to their families, I have met a number of kids who were going to be sorely missed by their familys, financially, when they left home. Either there was home business like a restaraunt where the kid worked harder than anyone they could pay to work that kept things running, or the kid was needed at home to watch little ones or grandma who could not be left unsupervised. This is not uncommon.</p>

<p>Many low-income students have to work part-time in order to send funds home to their families </p>

<p>How many??"</p>

<p>As far as I know, no data source. Enough so that an Ivy League President (and former Pres. of Smith, and former dean at Penn) would think of restructuring financial aid around it, which is quite amazing, given that there are aren't that many low-income students at elite institutions to begin with.</p>

<p>I expect that there are well-qualified students at state u.s all over the country who could do quite well at these other places, but who don't even think to apply because of family obligations (I know at least 5 myself.)</p>

<p>I have no idea who is well off. I have a gross income below that $65k, and feel VERY well-off (unless I look at college prices). In fact, I'm at the 60% percentile!</p>

<p>There are at least two separate issues raised by this article:</p>

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<li><p>the overall message that very poor people aren't going to most of the elite schools, with which I agree, and which can have a negative impact on classroom conversation (my kids have been in some real battles with those who seem to genuinely assume that everyone in th world is upper-middle class or wealthy and that those who aren't are lazy)</p></li>
<li><p>that Princeton is an expensive school for students on a day-to-day basis, with which I heartily disagree. Yes, you have to get your haircuts at home. However, "Prep-schoolers seemed to rule the dorms....Everyone's parents seemed to be Ivy-educated doctors and lawyers." No one "rules the dorms" except the invading squirrels. I have met parents from many different backgrounds. Being an Ivy-educated doctor is no guarantee of being popular; read the anti-Frist editorial in today's Prince: <a href="http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/05/02/opinion/12828.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/05/02/opinion/12828.shtml&lt;/a&gt;) Students get $5 or free tickets to all campus cultural programs, there are numerous free events and parties every weekend, and, as my d assures me, when there is a festive evening, girls borrow dresses and shoes all the time. When they do go out for a meal (which seems to be rarely, with all the other stuff going on), it is to the Chinese, Thai, or Indian restaurants or the pancakes/burger place along Nassau Street. If you want to do summer research, study abroad, or get an internship, there are many generous sources of university funding. You can even get paid to do community service. This is not at all a campus where it costs a lot for a student from day to day.</p></li>
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As far as I know, no data source.

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As usual. Just pulling it out of the ol' posterior orifice.</p>

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Enough so that an Ivy League President (and former Pres. of Smith, and former dean at Penn) would think of restructuring financial aid around it, which is quite amazing, given that there are aren't that many low-income students at elite institutions to begin with.

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Please...parse this gobbledygook. What the heck does it mean?</p>

<p>It means that the President of Brown University (and former Pres. of Smith, and former dean at Penn) restructured financial aid for low-income students so as to eliminate the assumption that funds from work-study for at least the first year would go toward paying the tuition bill, so that, if needed, they could instead work and send funds home. She is looking to do the same with summer work expectations. (She should know, being the daughter of sharecroppers herself, and having faced that position).</p>

<p>Since only 10% of students at Brown (6.8% at Harvard; 7.7% at Princeton, 9% at Yale) are Pell Grant recipients, with family incomes at or below roughly $40k (or at least were in the most recent Mortenson data), we can't be talking about many people to begin with. But apparently enough for President Simmons.</p>

<p>Do you have a problem with students sending money home? If you do, can I send you the address where you can send your own contribution to help out?</p>

<p>When you look at the income levels that a family who qualifies for Pell grants live on, I don't think anyon is pulling out of the" ol' posterior orifice" that some of those kids just might be contributing financially at home particularly through services that have to be replaced on a pay basis when they leave. If you do not personally know a number of such families, it may seem far fetched, but when they are real people with real needs, it is a different story. </p>

<p>For those kids who are going to the top schools, there is generally a supportive family there, which makes things easier. But where I work, some of those kids are just providing a patch here and there, keeping a dysfunctional family from falling apart. They do not qualify for top schools with top financial aid so they rarely do leave home, but it is tough for them to juggle college, job and home duties. The college is usually the ball that is dropped. Just too hard to do with other needs. Many of those kids would benefit if they could get out of those environments.</p>

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When they do go out for a meal (which seems to be rarely, with all the other stuff going on), it is to the Chinese, Thai, or Indian restaurants or the pancakes/burger place along Nassau Street.

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<p>Nassau Street eateries are very expensive to those from a working class background. Everything in Princeton has an inflated price, unless you are used to being from that sort of community. This girl's family makes $51,000/yr, which doesn't go far in NJ. She may already have a job, who knows, but I'd expect that someone from her background might be a little more frugal than a lot of her peers. She wasn't giving up, she was just speaking to what must be a bit of a culture shock. Her peers can greatly benefit from her point of view. It's a shame there isn't more representation from the working class at elite institutions.</p>

<p>"It's actually more than this, as Ruth Simmons at Brown has pointed out. Many low-income students have to work part-time in order to send funds home to their families (and work summers for that purpose, too.) So while it is nice when schools lower (or eliminate) loan expectations, these moves primarily impact middle income kids (remember, median household income is $49k), not so much the poor ones. (Loans have a greater impact on whether they will consider graduate or professional school.)"</p>

<p>With all due respect to Ruth Simmons, this position doesn't do a SINGLE thing to address the issue of financial aid for EDUCATION. Every time we attempt to mix different issues, we simply go backwards. Financial aid for education should NOT be viewed as a corrective measure for DIRECT poverty mitigation.<br>
If students NEED to send money home, that means that there are other problems at work ... problems that have nothing to do with helping students finance a higher education.</p>

<p>The problem with people like Mrs Simmons is that they prefer to discuss problems that have impossible solutions in a feeble attempt to bury the fact that they are incapable or unwilling to address issues that CAN be solved. </p>

<p>When will the liberals and quasi-communists ever learn?</p>

<p>Xiggi, though I do not feel that colleges should attempt to use financial aid to help the home situation, there does need to be some acknowledgement that kids who come from low income homes may have money issues that their peers from higher income families do not have to suffer. Loans are one issue that the top schools are trying to eliminate, as lower income kids many find it much more ornerous to repay the money. Work study is another area where some leeway might be given for truly low income kids. By leaving their time free and making sure that the college education is paid, if these kids want to work to send home money for the family or buy some amenities, it leaves them that option. It really puts them on more equal footing with those kids who do not have to work.</p>