<p>She want some little high ranked colleges, so maybe easy to transfer back to CA.</p>
<p>She would qualify for significant merit aid at U of Dayton and Ohio Wesleyan, both in Ohio, which would likely get you to $40K per year or less (especially OWU). Weather is a little better in middle to southern Ohio. And good access to airports in both locations. </p>
<p>In Ohio, take a look at Denison University also. </p>
<p>Also with an eye for staying on the west coast (easier visits home), second suggestion University of Puget Sound in WA …last time I looked they had just built a new science building. </p>
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As to the “gag me” response to U of Nevada, we know several high performing kids there who are thriving and recent graduates who are doing very well in graduate school. Sorry, but that is a very immature and short-sighted response.</p>
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<p>Ha! There’s a reason why UN Reno has a toilet ranking for a flagship. And only 7% of their students have an ACT 30+. It would be ridiculous for an ACT 35 student to go there when she would have MANY better options.</p>
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My D’s school require all students select at least one safey school, so she select UC R, but she does’t like it.</p>
<p>She want some little high ranked colleges, so maybe easy to transfer back to CA</p>
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<p>I know that English isn’t your first language. Do you mean that she wants a school that has a decent ranking?</p>
<p>And, if she doesn’t like Riverside, then it isn’t a safety for her.</p>
<p>What about LMU or Santa Clara?</p>
<p>yes, she like colleges that has a decent ranking.</p>
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As far as I know, there is only one year in the entire history of the UC system that they had to turn away students for lack of space, and that was before the Merced campus was opened – specifically to provide needed space. </p>
<p>Well, it sounds like space will be available at M or R, but she doesn’t want to go to them. </p>
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<p>What does she want to do with a biology degree? Go to med school? If so, then she should try to go OOS so that she can get a “tie” to another state to increase med school chances since it is ridiculously hard to get into Calif med schools.</p>
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Do you mean that she would want to transfer back to the UC system? If so, then leaving the state would be a big mistake. Because the UC system guarantees transfer admission t community college students who have completed core requirements, there are very few spots left open for students transferring from other schools, particularly in some majors. </p>
<p>What is OOS? Which college?</p>
<p>“OOS” means out of state</p>
<p>She should not go OOS (out of state) if she wants to transfer back to a UC. UCs take mostly CC transfers.</p>
<p>However, if she’s premed, then it would be a good idea for her to pick an OOS school where she will have a “tie” to that state’s med schools since it is soooooooooooo hard to get into Calif med schools. </p>
<p>What is your suggestion for OOS pre-med colleges or universities according to my daughter’s situation ?</p>
<pre><code>If your D is thinking medical school someday, but isn’t sure right now, then my advice would be:
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<p>Either apply where you pay in-state tuition, OR to an OOS public college that will offer your D a scholarship or tuition equivalent to in-state, OR a private liberal arts college that will offer a merit scholarship. If her senior grades are high, then she should get good merit offers due to her 35 ACT from smaller private colleges.</p>
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<p>So NOT the most competitive academic high ranked powerhouses that are on your first list. I’d go for the small, nurturing liberal arts college with a good but not stellar ranking. </p>
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<li> Don’t think your D has to major in biology or other science in order to go to medical school. She can major in anything as long as she also takes pre-med classes and gets high grades in them.</li>
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<p>Example: my friend’s son majored in classics at UC Santa Barbara, but took all the pre-med required courses as well. Top student. Didn’t get into UC med schools, but did get into several others. I think he’s going to Loyola in Chicago.</p>
<p>Another, a daughter of a friend went to a tiny liberal arts college not far from Los Angeles and just blossomed. Double major in religion and biology. Top grades…went directly to Johns Hopkins medical school. Here is a link to that tiny college:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.westmont.edu”>http://www.westmont.edu</a></p>
<p><a href=“Scholarships | Westmont College”>http://www.westmont.edu/_offices/financial_aid/scholarships-and-grants.html</a></p>
<p>@mom2collegekids: Unless there are programs that I am unaware of, the only way a “tie” to another state would help her get in to the med schools of that state is if she establishes residency in that state. Which actually isn’t that hard for US citizens to do in several states, granted.</p>
<p>This chart is informative:
<a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/321442/data/factstable1.pdf”>https://www.aamc.org/download/321442/data/factstable1.pdf</a></p>
<p>If she is deadset on med school, going to school in and establishing residency in a state where it looks like in-state kids have a decent chance of getting in to that state’s med school makes more sense than chasing undergraduate prestige (warning: almost all of them are low population states). However, you have to be careful about how the med school determines whether someone is a resident of their state; if her parents are still in CA, she may have to become independent somehow.</p>
<p>Um…I’m missing a few things…</p>
<p>Do you live in California and pay taxes there? If your D was born in the US she is a US citizen. However, going to a boarding school in California will not entitle her to instate tuition unless her parent(s) are California tax payers If you aren’t, forget all the instate/OOS messages in this thread. She may be treated as out of state for admissions purposes, which not only means you’ll pay higher tuition but may also mean she’s treated as out of state for admissions purposes If so, her chances of admission are lower . </p>
<p>Next if she’s at a boarding school, her college adviser ought to be able to give much better advice about her odds at various schools than anyone on this board. For example, 3.4 would be a good grade average at some schools and bottom of the class at others. We don’t know. Her school does. Her college adviser probably also has statistics as to which schools have accepted students with profiles similar to your daughter in the past. (S)he should be able to tell you which schools on her list are matches and which are reaches and give you much better advice than we can as to which schools she can treat as safeties.</p>
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<p>I’m not convinced that Santa Clara is a safety for this student. They’ve been getting more selective. Check their thread for EA rejections; I wouldn’t call her a slam dunk.</p>
<p>She’ll be admitted to Riverside, but she doesn’t want to go there so it’s not a safety either.</p>
<p>I’m confused by the entire college list. If the family can only pay $40k, how are any of the private schools affordable? ChaseBank, do you expect financial aid? </p>
<p>The Midwestern LACs like Beloit, Kalamazoo, Lawrence would probably love a kid like this. Her Chinese ethnicity would help here there. </p>
<p>Yes, we want some financial aid, we pay tax in CA.</p>
<p>Have you run the financial aid calculators at the schools your daughter is applying to? Do they turn out to be affordable? Are you willing to take out loans?</p>