Lower acceptance rate of women favors men?or the other way round?

<p>the title says it...im kinda confused cuz of stories on two sides.</p>

<p>lower acceptance rates for women at more slective universities, because more women apply so each one is less likely to get in.</p>

<p>overall though, women technically have higher acceptance rates just becuase so many more women go to college than men.</p>

<p>So, a man's chances of getting into a college are better than a woman's, but more women go to college overall.</p>

<p>so overall, a lower precentage of men in a school actually favors men's chances?but that more women are in the college as in numbers??is that wat u mean??if so.thanks</p>

<p>^^This is completely incorrect. Only at some LAC's are men at an advantage. And certainly ivies do not have more male applicants than female.</p>

<p>then can u explain it? lets say for example: (below are the stats for NYU)</p>

<p>1st-year students:</p>

<pre><code>* 27% In-state students
* 73% Out-of-state students
* 1% Part-time students

  • 63% Women
  • 37% Men </code></pre>

<p>does this mean that its more likely for men to get in as compared to women?</p>

<p>It really does depend on the college. I know that MIT and Caltech's acceptance rates are higher for women than men.</p>

<p>it is easier for a man to get into a particular college. but more women pursue higher eduation overall.</p>

<p>USATODAY.com</a> - More women graduate. Why?</p>

<p>1) More women apply to and finish college
2) Therefore, at each school, adcoms get more applications for women than men
3) Adcoms want to keep gender ratios about even, so the average male applicant is more likely to be admitted than the average female one</p>

<p>Now, even if a woman does not get into a given colelge, she'll probably get into some college, and she'll go there and graduate. So you still have more women going to college. </p>

<p>Now, whether the gender factor is that big of a deal probably depends on the college.This is just the average trend for most schools. It doesn't apply to all of them.</p>

<p>@ post #5:
Are these real stats? That's insane.</p>

<p>Anyway, it would be impossible to tell. The whole point of boosting one gender would be to equalize the numbers. 63%-37% doesn't look equal to me. But technically you couldn't know that the gender ratio wouldn't be 70-30%. So the short answer is that you can't tell strictly from those statistics. </p>

<p>Having avg SAT scores and acceptance rates for each gender would help--but even those can be misleading in certain cases.</p>

<p>are u referring to the example (NYU) i mentioned??i get a sense of wat u mean?but u see..ppl are confusing when it comes to this? so it average male applicant is more likely to be admitted than the average female applicant in the case of the stats i provided for NYU??</p>

<p>collegealum314: i got them from college board school profile, im ont sure if they are 100% correct..but still its collegeboard.</p>

<p>The high end of the SAT, for both math and verbal, is disproportionately male. For any selective school, therefore, it would be odd for it to be easier for males to get in. </p>

<p>And USA Today could be completely wrong; the media often is way behind on admissions statistics. If they can write an article that will get people's attention (for examples, females find it harder to get into college), they will do that.</p>

<p>The fatal flaw in aranyia's argument is that there is assumption that the if the average performance (or percentage who apply to college) of females is better than males, then the performance of the top 10% of females must be greater than the performance of the top 10% of males. Clearly this is not the case.</p>

<p>so collegealum314, what do u think the stats from NYU are telling u? men with a greater chance or women?assume that they have identical stats.</p>

<p>With respect to your example, Winston, I've rarely seen gender statistics that skewed. The short answer to your question is that it is impossible to tell strictly from the info you have provided. If you can find the average SAT score of males and females in the incoming class, that might give you a clue as to whether there is a gender preference in admissions. </p>

<p>My guess is that there is not a gender preference in NYU's case. The number of competitive applicants in each gender is not so skewed that it would be worse than 70-30, and there doesn't look like there is an attempt to equalize the gender numbers.</p>

<p>i get what u mean collegealum314, but it's pretty hard to find stats of SAT scores for different sex, but generally, do schools majoring or good in business prefer men or women?</p>

<p>I did some googling for NYU, and it seems like the gender disparity may be at least partly due to the majors it has. As you probably know, some majors are dominated by one or the other gender. At least, that is the reasoning given by NYU administrators in the article I found. For example, NYU lacks engineering, and this is typically dominated by men. They offer nursing, which is dominated by women. The following article claims that some majors are 50-50. They specifically mention finance as being 50-50.</p>

<p>"Ryan, 23, a finance and accounting senior who would not give his last name, also said his classes were pretty evenly mixed in terms of gender."</p>

<p>N.Y.U</a>. women find the pickings are slim among male undergrads</p>

<p>Based on that quote, I would doubt that there would be an advantage for being of a certain gender if one was applying to the business school.</p>

<p>thanks a lot collegealum314, i guesss that article u provided explains all. ok so does it mean that a women would be more likely to get in when she applys for engineering?(cuz most of the class is men), or the opposite, cuz male dominated that industry??</p>

<p>^^It depends on the school. Some schools make it easier for females to get accepted in order to boost female enrollment; some schools don't care about equalizing the gender ratio in engineering. While there is some discrimination against females in engineering in the workplace, I would say this doesn't occur in the admissions process.</p>

<p>You won't be able to tell from gender ratios or acceptance rates which programs have gender AA or not. For example, Caltech has a significantly higher acceptance rate for females than males, but they don't practice AA. Females tend not to apply to Caltech unless they are really hardcore, so the few ones that do are extremely qualified and are accepted at a high rate. Hence the term self-selection.</p>

<p>Okay, this is based on absolutely nothing but my personal experiences.</p>

<p>male students have it hard for the very very best of schools, but on average, it's easier for males. </p>

<p>If you didn't understand that, I meant it's harder for males than females for ivies, but at most of the other schools, it's harder for females.</p>

<p>lol.thanks for explaining this to me.another quick question, which school do u recommend for undergrad finance?USC, BC, CMU, or do u say get into a good school for undergrad, and worry more for major when grad comes??</p>