Major employers favorite hiring schools

[barrons]

<p>State flagships. Online very much unfavored.</p>

<p>The</a> Employment Mismatch - Special Reports - The Chronicle of Higher Education</p>

[aquamarinesea]

<p>Thanks for sharing this article. Here are couple of items I wanted to point out.</p>

<p>According to surveys:</p>

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Internships are the single most important credential for a recent college grad. </p>

<p>On-the-job experience may matter more than a student’s major, GPA or college that they attended.</p>

<p>63% of students who have a paid internship receive at least one job offer before they graduate.

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<p>Ranking of types of colleges that employers prefer to hire from:</p>

<ol>
<li> State flagship (3.87)</li>
<li> Private nonprofit (3.78)</li>
<li> Public regional campus (3.76)</li>
<li> Liberal arts (3.51)</li>
<li> Technical (3.5)</li>
<li> For profit (3.41)</li>
</ol>

<p>(Mean rating on a 1-5 scale)</p>

<p>Note that the ranking for liberal arts colleges was nearly the same as technical and for-profit colleges.</p>

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In fact, some lines of work that traditionally haven’t required a degree, including manufacturing and the service-and-retail sector, are where employers now place a higher value on a college education.

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[Madaboutx]

<p>Flagships produce a reliable crop of middle class, entry level and mid level white collar and technical employees.</p>

[emeraldkity4]

<p>Liberal arts colleges are like orep schools for graduate school.
My daughter then attended a private non profit university.</p>

[kayf]

<p>If you have to hire a lot of people, likely you are going to look to public flagships. You’re probably not wasting your time recruiting at top tier private schools where the students are looking for Goldman Sachs, not Walmart (nothing wrong with either one, but employers have to spend time where they will get hires).</p>

[Erin_s_Dad]

<p>You can’t tell if the ranking differences are statistically significant.</p>

[SteveMA]

<p>Interesting quote from the article " lacking basic workplace proficiencies, like adaptability, communication skills, and the ability to solve complex problems."</p>

<p>I don’t think this is a problem with the UG colleges per se, but more of a way too many kids are being raised these days–parents running interference for anything that may upset their child and not allowing kids to make mistakes and learning from those mistakes.</p>

[GMTplus7]

<p>Here’s a WSJ article that reports that employers like ‘one-stop-shopping’ at the big state schools:
[Job</a> Recruiters Prefer State Universities Over Ivy League Colleges - WSJ.com](<a href=“http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704358904575477643369663352.html?mod=WSJ_PathToProfessions_TopLEADNewsCollection]Job”>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704358904575477643369663352.html?mod=WSJ_PathToProfessions_TopLEADNewsCollection)

Under pressure to cut costs and streamline their hiring efforts, recruiting managers find it’s more efficient to focus on fewer large schools and forge deeper relationships with them, according to a Wall Street Journal survey of top corporate recruiters whose companies last year hired 43,000 new graduates. Big state schools Pennsylvania State University, Texas A&M University and University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign were the top three picks among recruiters surveyed.

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[momsquad]

<p>NPR/Marketplace had an interesting segment on problems recruiters face finding qualified applicants:</p>

<p>

Employers also said they place more weight on experience, particularly internships and employment, than they do on academic credentials, including college grades and major. Plus, one third of employers place more value on a four-year degree today than they did five years ago.

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<p>[Job</a> prospects simulator: Play along! | Marketplace.org](<a href=“http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/education/job-prospects-simulator-play-along]Job”>Job prospects simulator: Play along! - Marketplace)</p>

[higgins2013]

<p>A friend is an alumni of local “prestige university”, in charge of hiring college grads at her corporate office, yet now reluctant to hire grads from her same university for entry-level positions, noting that inevitably these grads would underperform at their entry-level administrative tasks, complain about their work, and often unwilling to “pitch in”. They’d often quit. She now prefers grads from Tier 2 local colleges, feeling that they’re far more motivated to perform satisfactorily without constant direction.</p>

[aquamarinesea]

<p>emerald,</p>

<p>“Liberal arts colleges are like prep schools for graduate school.”</p>

<p>I would tend to agree with you which would explain why employers are less likely to hire from them compared to other types of colleges.</p>

<p>momsquad,</p>

<p>The NPR segment you refer to is the study that was mentioned in the OP’s article in the Chronicle of Higher Education.</p>

<p>[Internships</a> become the new job requirement | Marketplace.org](<a href=“http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/education/internships-become-new-job-requirement]Internships”>Internships become the new job requirement - Marketplace)</p>

<p>Since employers now consider internships to be the most important thing that they are looking for when evaluating a recent college grad, I’m curious why all college students are not participating in internships before they graduate? If my child had to choose between taking the summer off, traveling, working at a summer camp, or doing an internship, I would most definitely encourage them to take advantage of an internship.</p>

[kelsmom]

<p>I’m curious why all college students are not participating in internships before they graduate?</p>

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<p>Probably because not all college students are able to get an internship position. My S is a bio major, and he hasn’t been able to land an internship. He is not pre-med, so he isn’t a candidate for the few bio internships he has been able to find.</p>

[aquamarinesea]

<p>kelsmom,</p>

<p>D has a few friends who are bio majors. All have had summer internships beginning the summer after their freshman year. Some even had internships when in high school. Perhaps it depends on the area of the country where your S is looking for an internship.</p>

[gouf78]

<p>Agree with Higgins–I hear a lot about new grads unwilling to work their way up a ladder. They want to start at the top and somehow don’t seem to recognize that the top step is already occupied and the person at the top didn’t just suddenly materialize there. Many think they are worth much more than they actually are.</p>

[SteveMA]

<p>gouf78–I agree-it is an issue. I know Dh has had fresh college grads interview and when he asks what their long range plans are, there is always a few in the bunch that say “I will have your job in 2 years”–um, no you won’t :D. He also hires from “tier 2” schools because those kids are much harder workers and are more willing to contribute to the company vs do their job (although I don’t buy into the ‘tier’ system).</p>

[emeraldkity4]

<p>My kids couldn’t afford to do unpaid internships, & neither one had a car to get to a paid one.
The money they earned summers had to go toward tuition, not a car & the money they earned during the school year went for books & personal things.</p>

<p>However oldest recently landed a very good job that she is well qualified for, but I swear the hiring process took several months of interviews & visits. ( I just counted. At least four months from her first interview, to starting the job, so who knows how many candidates they had to winnow down)</p>

[LakeWashington]

<p>Internships seem to be the keys to the kingdom these days, particularly for STEM majors. Kids have to hunt and be determined to locate a summer program that will provide a valuable experience. Lake Jr. is waiting to hear now from the half-dozen he’s applied to.</p>