<p>I do understand that you really want this job, but telling the hiring manager that you are engaged to a US citizen, and expect to have your green card soon is pointless. They can’t hire you because they “expect” that your immigration situation will be resolved within a certain period of time, because there is no guarantee that you will indeed resolve it within that time frame.</p>
<p>All you can say is something along the lines of, “While I would love to work for your organization, in this position - it truly is my dream job - I realize that you have legitimate concerns due to my status as a student with OPT. If you determine that you cannot hire me now given those restrictions, I do hope that you would keep me in mind for future employment should my status change.” Then add the hiring manager to your LinkedIn contact list so that you can keep in touch for the future, and walk away.</p>
<p>You also wrote: I graduated the top of my class but I believe I am the only person from my class unemployed tried now. That means that the time you have to find a position with your OPT, and to begin work is running down. Contact the International Students Office at your college/university, and find out what the cut-off date is for you. You cannot remain here in your current status past that date.</p>
<p>What did you study? You can do master’s if your OPT runs out and you are still single. It is much easier to get someone to do paperwork if you have a masters.</p>
<p>I am currently working as a volunteer research assistant at my school to keep my OPT valid. And I was an engineering major. The position I am going for is not engineering (so there is a competition) but consultancy which is what I want to do.</p>
<p>I also have plans of getting my masters next year part time while working and it will be in the field of work for this job.I know I can always apply later but it is so hard to let it go after coming this far.</p>
<p>If OP has been in a relationship for that long and plans to marry, the OPT will not run out before the employer has to worry about H1B so the H1B worry is moot - the employer is not worried about the OPT, only about H1B, and a permanent resident (which OP will be) does not need H1B.</p>
<p>The fiancee visa lasts 90 days. Once approved, it does confer the right to apply for work status, but that also only lasts 90 days .</p>
<p>Both of these are supposed to be timed from the date of entry to the US, so the fact that you are already here may be problematic. The intent of the fiance visa is for those intending to marry a foreign national who does not already have permission to be here.</p>
<p>In any event, an extra 90 days is unlikely to sway an employer’s judgment. Either you have permanent resident status in the US or you don’t. If you don’t, they have to weigh the investment in training you against the likelihood that you will leave when your temporary status ends.</p>
<p>sheena: that’s why you’re in this mess. You don’t clarify your information and you aren’t thorough in your investigation, that’s why you’re on this forum. (Where did you get that I’m a mexican immigrant??? As a person with a minimum of 4 generations of tribal american-indian (TEXAS) bloodlines and a Mexican American bloodline, you need to read clearly.)</p>
<p>Yes, I have realized that fiancee visa is not applicable to me. I think that makes the situation more favorable for myself since now I can tell them that my fiancee will apply for a green card for me. I think we are going to get engaged very soon(we both discussed it) since we have been together for so long and also engagement is not as serious of a commitment as marriage (so we won’t feel like we are rushing into that because of a job).
Based on what I will hear from the company I think I will tell them I am engaged to an us citizen and h1b may not be applicable to myself in two years.</p>
<p>Aunt bea, nobody else had a problem understanding my situation so I believe it is a problem with your comprehension </p>
<p>I know right now hiring managers are discussing my situation and they may or may not decide to hire me on OPT. So before they come to a conclusion about it should I email them and tell them about this to make the decision favorable for myself. I know happymom said not to but it wouldn’t hurt to try right?</p>
<p>Don’t tell them. They cannot legally ask about your marital status. And until you do have that green card in your hand, you still are just another student with OPT who might cause them am H1B visa headache down the line.</p>
<p>It might be pointless if I told them but then it can be a trusting issue too. I just want them to give me a chance a test me and see how much of a valuable employee I can be. It is like, you can hire someone who doesn’t need sponsorship but that person can be slacker and get fired in two years. Or they can hire someone who needs sponsorship but have the guarantee that they will put the maximum effort because they want it (I am talking about myself not generally).
The recruiter here has a personal relationship with me because he was on OPT once and understands where I come from. Also I felt like the two hiring managers who interviewed me have a personal connection because they said they have to have me. That’s why I feel like if I said I am engaged that might be enough assurance for them to give me two years.</p>
<p>You may say “I am talking about myself not generally”, but in the same breath you are suggesting that anyone else who wants the job might slack off and get fired. That’s pretty general.</p>
<p>By generalizing as you have just done, you are frankly being insulting to the citizens of the country you wish to join, and more sadly also to yourself. Surely your motivation to work hard and excel comes from more than just a desire for citizenship. What you have to offer is your own unique skills and thought processes, your own personal desire to learn and grow and thrive.</p>
<p>If I am the hiring manager, what I am supposed to think if you argue that you are “guaranteed” to work hard because you need sponsorship? Does that mean you will stop working hard once you have achieved permanent residence and no longer need the sponsorship? “Goal accomplished, time to rest on my laurels!” …somehow I suspect that is not really you.</p>
<p>Focus on what you, and you alone, are bringing to the table. If they’ve already said they “have to have you” then I would relax and let them evaluate the situation and make the decision that is best for their company. You’ve already shown them your worth, and sadly, they may still have to say “No” even though they want to say “Yes”. But all this scheming you are doing to try to seal the deal is more likely to set you back than help you, because it smacks of desperation.</p>
<p>It’s like begging someone for a date after they’ve said “I am really into you, but I need a little time to think about whether I am ready for a serious relationship right now.” There is a point where you have to realize you have shown them who you are, and the decision is in their hands.</p>
<p>I already send them an email on my engagement so have I just wreaked any chances I might have had?
I apologize for the wrong generalization but I was trying to talk about a one possible scenario. Not about everybody.</p>
<p>Also, DreamSchl this is unfortunate for me because it is not about something I bring to the table. It is something beyond my control that has no relation to my performance or worth. That is why I wanted to exercise every possible measure to reduce their fears of sponsorship.</p>
<p>From my perspective I was thinking how unfortunate is it to lose the perfect job over something that I might not even need in two years.</p>
<p>Telling them that you are engaged to a US citizen probably won’t affect their decision at all. If you had told them “We got married in Vegas yesterday because we feel that this career opportunity is too important to pass up, and filed my initial green card application this morning.” maybe it would make a difference. But maybe not. Until that green card is in your hot little fist, you still are under the OPT rules.</p>
<p>Take a deep breath. Then go apply for five or six more jobs, so you have some options if this one doesn’t come through.</p>
<p>No offense taken at the generalization. I just wanted you to also see that it reflects how you may be selling yourself short.</p>
<p>“Take a deep breath. Then go apply for five or six more jobs, so you have some options if this one doesn’t come through.”</p>
<p>Seconded. If you are hot enough for one employer to crave your presence, you are hot enough for many. And some employers are more comfortable with H1B issues than others, simply because they have done it enough times before to know how to streamline the process. There’s a great job out there for you, even if it’s not the one you are currently resting your hopes on.</p>
<p>Thanks for the replies everybody. I think I will call them today and get an answer once and for all. Their problem they never reject me but just keep me hanging and I try to device every possible reason to secure it.
Does anybody have any other suggestions for me to bring up during my call that can favor my situation?</p>
<p>Hiring managers do have the bad habit of letting people wait for answers. So please don’t keep waiting and hoping for this job. It’s OK to call and ask if they know yet when they are likely to have an answer, but even if they tell you that they will know “tomorrow” keep applying for other jobs.</p>
<p>I just wanted to do a quick update on my situation for anybody reading this in the same situation as I am. The company contacted me and told me that they retract the offer because of the sponsorship and I told them I am getting married this week. Now they are reconsidering it and my fiance and I will get married either tomorrow or Friday. </p>
<p>I probably look like either a very ambitious person (I hope) or an annoying pest to them right now but at this point it wouldn’t hurt to try every possible measure I think. Wish me luck people:)</p>
<p>Yes, such positions aren’t easy to find - even American citizens have trouble finding jobs right out of college, so if you have one you love, where the employers want you, and where you can see yourself staying, you did the smart thing.</p>
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