<p>@lordfarquaad - what was the evocative/moving question again? i think i may have put simplistic too now that you mention it.</p>
<p>lordfarquaad: The exact wording of that answer choice was “The value of jazz training is difficult to assess.” I almost chose it until I saw the word “value”. If it had said “nature” or something similar, it might have been correct, but nowhere in the passage is the value of training disputed, because some form of training will always be necessary to become a musician.</p>
<p>Did anyone get a vocab with the word «calumny»?</p>
<p>Generica ahh I see. Thank you! Critical reading is always my downfall gahh.</p>
<p>Genericana: But that’s still an interpretation. You see, I took the answer choice to mean that it is difficult to assess the value of jazz training vs. the value of personal training; that is, finding your soul within jazz music. The author did mention that conservatory training can only do so much, at which point the musician will have to turn to himself for further training. He’s not debating the necessity of classical instruction. Rather, he’s questioning its significance when compared to this idea of learning from within, which he seemed to be arguing was more important.</p>
<p>Anyway, I think this question (and its answer choices) is way too subjective for a standardized test like the SAT.</p>
<p>@azhog. no i don’t remember that as an answer choice. :/</p>
<p>Guys IM BACK: for all the newcomers, the answers WERENT MINE they were ALREADY A CONSOLITED LIST FROM THE PREVIOUS 40 PAGES OF DISCUSSION: </p>
<p>SO IF WE JUST KEEP ARGUING ABOUT MOST OF THEM THERE IS NO POINT. OTHER THAN THE CAVES PASSAGE EVERYTHING IS COOOOOOORRRRRREEEEEEECCCCCTTTTTT!!!</p>
<p>LIST:</p>
<p>Vocabulary (14)</p>
<ul>
<li>Corrupt minister: Castigated/Misconduct</li>
<li>Sentimentality: Mawkishness</li>
<li>Boy, youthful energy etc: Obstreperous</li>
<li>Synthesize/Divergent</li>
<li>Imperturbable/Ruffled</li>
<li>Austerity/Curtail </li>
<li>Meditation</li>
<li>Infectious</li>
<li>Succinct</li>
<li>Small/Functional</li>
<li>Empathy</li>
<li>Firm, Outspokenness</li>
<li>Procrastinator</li>
<li>Misnomer</li>
</ul>
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<p>Minipassages</p>
<p>Jazz Passage (2)
- learning Jazz is a demanding activity
- personal creativity</p>
<p>Video Games passages (3)
- Video games can transform players
- 1st passage analyzed a topic and 2nd passage said it was harmful
- “Form” means type</p>
<p>Ocean Passage (2)
- Sentence was for transition
- Investigating a crime scene</p>
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<p>Big passages</p>
<p>Whales Passage (8)
- Purpose: describe a scientists something???
- Using similes and metaphors in writing
- Bursts and smokes meant scientists put in much effort already
- Mentioned all EXCEPT motivation to study whales
- Speed/pace of activity
- Appreciation of limitations
- Offer a likely train of thought
- What a whale might be doing may not seem like anything at first (something of that nature)…</p>
<p>Time/space Passage (7)
- the general idea question: Compare time and space or something like that
- Blur between day and night
- Evening schools
- Imagery described contrast between day and night
- Have the reader view human history visually (it was the look, hover question)
- “both” refers to Available space and usable time
- Rhythm - biological pattern</p>
<p>Black Concert (12)
- Bears: proceeds
- Exuberant celebration for the high schooler
- Cherry blossoms: wild
- Crowd of people: relentless force
- Great migration: belonging
- Waiting for lifetimes: generations
- Impressionistic view of city
- The panorama of the city: idealized
- Crowd changing: color
- Endless ground : inclusiveness of society
- Reference to baby kicking: Novelty of a development
- Lifting barriers</p>
<p>Cave Paintings Passage (10)
- Credibility
- Aesthetic power
- Beauty is eternal: reverent
- Playfully careless
- Sympathetic
- General agreement
- Evocative and moving
- emphasize paradox
- Gifted artists of the Paleolithic period <(IM SURE THIS IS RIGHT BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOT ASKING FOR GUTRHIES OPINION IT WAS THE GUYS WHO DISAGREED WITH GUTRHIE SO THE PAINTINGS IN P1 ARE THEREFORE DONE BY GIFTED PAINTERS)
-“early attempts” (AGAIN, MOST OF YOU GUYS READ THE QUESTION WRONG - THE LINES IT WAS REFERRING TO WAS FROM TEXTBOOKS AND GUTRHIE EXPLICITLY SAID THAT TEENAGERS WORKS ARE RARELY INCLUDED IN TEXTBOOKS SO THESE PAINTINGS ARE MOST LIKELY DONE BY ACCOMPLISHED ARTISTS)</p>
<p>sauternity I think that the question about the whales involving “sparks and smoke” was referring to that previous efforts to experiment on the whales proved futile. Not that there was extensive research done on it previously.</p>
<p>I don’t think the futility choice worked because the author said afterward that they might be able to “widen the keyhole” more. Not really “futile,” but the sparks and smoke connote that hard work has been put in.</p>
<p>I think you’re making too much of an inference with the “early attempts.”</p>
<p>Yeah and when referring to widening the keyhole he meant through observation not through experimentation because (as he pointed out numerous times in the passage) human experimentation on whales isn’t productive due to the differing speeds of life.</p>
<p>Have we mutually concurred that for the whales passage it was ‘appreciation of limitations’? I put "recognizing the advantages/disadvantages’ so did a lot of others. I’ll be ****ed if I got that wrong, debated it for like a good 2 minutes haha</p>
<p>I agree with notanengineer on all counts.</p>
<p>um… i dont remember futility as one of the choices for sparks and smokes… it was either effort or magic, i believe.
and could anyone explain their answer to the early attempts/evidence/data question??? what was your reasoning?</p>
<p>Pretty certain it was an “appreciation of limitations,” since it was being compared to a sonnet. The challenge offered by writing a sonnet isn’t meant to be understood as a “disadvantage.”</p>
<p>Futility was one of the choices for the keyhole question. Magic didn’t make sense at all within the context of the passage.</p>
<p>Are you guys sure it was an exuberant celebration for the high schooler in the black girl passage? I thought it might be perplexing (something) because it said she was not only a high school drop out, but also was searching for love/acceptance in her smile (if I read that part right?)</p>
<p>for the first jazz question, I think “personal …precedes formal training,” because precedes also means coming before in importance, meaning that the choice really means that personal creative is more important than formal training…and that’s really the Main Idea.</p>
<p>The “demanding” choice seems kind of week, because no where does the passage state that doing so is difficult or trying; it just says jazz training needs a unique perspective and approach. That is not tantamount to a “demanding activity.”</p>
<p>the disadvantage/advantage thing was incorrect, i believe, cuz no one afterwards debated about it… and that seciton was talking about sonnet forms so it was limited by still “challenged” the scientist guy.</p>
<p>omg i put advantages and disadvantages also! I did that because it goes to explain how it’s a challenge but when accomplished you feel good. And that was used as a metaphor for the whales. I’m confident about my answer</p>
<p>the imagery created when the author said “sparks and smoke” was meant to create an image of someone starting a fire but that is unable to get it going; meaning that the efforts were futile. Or it could be a cliche reference to how authors/movie producers display things sparking and smoking before the go out. Either way the reference was clearly indicating the futility of the previous experimentation done on whales.</p>
<p>what was the question where “appreciation of limitations” was one of the answers?</p>
<p>@johnny the answer was “conservatory training PRECEDES personal something”, which has absolutely NO support.</p>