<p>Well, if that number includes Canadians, then that would seem to make more sense. </p>
<p>After reading that link, so few schools accepted “non Canadian int’ls” (NCIs) that it just doesn’t seem to add up to 240 seats given. I think there are about 150 MD schools in the US, and we know that most aren’t seating NCIs and only some seat a few…so the number “240” just doesn’t seem to add up.</p>
<p>(#33)
“Have you looked at any MD/PhD programs? That may be a way that someone without a green card can get into the system.”</p>
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<li>Is there any difference in admission rate of MD/PhD from ‘regular’ MD programs?
Thanks.</li>
</ul>
<p>MD/PhD programs have very limited enrollment because there are fewer of those programs and those programs enroll fewer students overall than do MD-only programs.</p>
<p>For example, our state med school accepts an incoming M1 class of about 105 each year, but only accepts 2-3 MD/PhD students. Some of the larger MD/PhD programs might enroll maybe 20 students a year.</p>
<p>Although fewer people apply to MD/PhD programs than to MD-only programs, the competition for spots is much greater simply because there are fewer spots available.</p>
<p>And admission requirements for MD/PhD programs are different than MD-only programs–in the sense that you must qualify for and be accepted into both med school AND grad school. IOW, you need to have a science major and be good enough at it to be considered as a viable candidate for admission to grad school as well as meeting any med school admission requirements. Some MD/PhD programs require both MCAT and GRE scores.</p>
<p>Also most MD/PhD students are funded by the MSTP which is a NIH funded program. I’m not sure if internationals are eligible for NIH funding. Though I suppose if you’re willing to pay for the medical portion of the program on your own and can find a research sponsor (faculty at the university–which shouldn’t be all that difficult) then it might work.</p>
<p>There are a couple of Canadian schools that appear to accept internationals in that I saw postings of international fees…it stuck in my mind that Halifax charged $90k CD tuition!</p>
<p>I do know a dozen Canadians who skipped traditional UG and went to the UK into medical school, they plan to come back and practice here for the most part, it can be done that way.</p>
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I do not know whether it is still true as of today. In the past, the only exception is for internationals who were graduated with an engineering degree; they could still find a job (They were possibly given an opportunity to work till they are 35 yo and these companies start to replace them with younger/cheaper ones.) These days, the large tech companies found a better loophole: They contracted directly with some overseas companies so that they can “hire” overseas workers (they are not even official employees of these companies) who rotate in and out of this country every 2-3 months. If you see what their living conditions are (each person may have a bed only in a crowded house), it is like “modern plantation.” This may be the only way these companies can compete against some other companies doing the same.</p>
<p>There are also some companies which are set up just outside of the US border which claim that they can supply cheap and quality knowledge workers (typically with BS/MS or even PhD degrees, sometimes from a prestigious unversity in other country where the job opportunity is not plenty or the pay is still lower than here) in the same time-zone.</p>
<p>Check this out:
[Admissions</a> Requirements — School of Medicine at the University of Virginia](<a href=“http://www.medicine.virginia.edu/education/medical-students/admissions/som-admissions-requirements]Admissions”>http://www.medicine.virginia.edu/education/medical-students/admissions/som-admissions-requirements)</p>
<p>“Applicants who are not U.S. citizens or permanent residents (green card holders) of the U.S. are eligible to apply for the M.D. program provided they have completed (or will complete) at least 90 semester hours of course work in the U.S. or Canada prior to the start of medical school. Credits transferred from foreign institutions do not count towards the 90 semester hour requirement.”</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Yes, but did you check out Wowmom’s link…</p>
<p>University of Virginia</p>
<p>Permanent residents are treated like U.S. citizens in the admissions process. Applicants who are not US citizens or permanent residents are eligible to apply provided they have completed at least 90 semester hours of course work in a US or Canadian college or university. ** None have been admitted in the past three years. **International students must meet INS requirements and provide documentation of their ability to pay for their medical education. There is no financial aid available for international students.</p>
<p>None have been accepted for the last 3 years…not promising at all. and, must provide documentation of their ability to pay for all 4 years…probably about $400k.</p>
<p>UVa had four international matriculants last year. VCU had 2.</p>
<p>In total ~75 US allos had zero internationals last year. </p>
<p>I was incorrect in an earlier post: Wayne State has the most with 18.</p>