Minority Q

<p>is the arabic ethinicy a minority that can help me get into college?</p>

<p>no, apparently we're white...lol I can't believe I learned my ethnicity from CC</p>

<p>No, sorry.</p>

<p>Under-represented :
Native Americans/Eskimo
African-Americans
Hispanic(Mexian and Puertorican)</p>

<p>Normal
Caucasian (European, Russian, Middle Eastern, North Americans, ect.)</p>

<p>Over-represented
Asian (China, Korea, India, ect.)</p>

<p>I am not sure where Other Hispanics go. Maybe between Normal and Under-reprsented.</p>

<p>The whole Hispanic issue is a nightmare anyway. Technically, my daughter's father is a second generation Mexican American. He is 7/8 Hispanic. BUT his surname is Irish thanks to his great-great grandfather who emigrated to Mexico from Ireland during the potato famine and he is Caucasian due to the fact that his Spanish ancestors in Mexico just married other Caucasian Spaniards (not counting that Irish guy). She considers herself Hispanic and she is certainly more Hispanic than anything else (nearly half) and indicates that when she fills out forms. We don't speak Spanish in our home because I don't speak Spanish. It cracks us up when she gets invitations to events at various schools for students of color. Is she wrong to mark herself as Hispanic? It's the truth and if people make assumptions based off of that, I guess that's not our problem.</p>

<p>Your D is telling the truth, so it doesn't matter what her last name is or what language she speaks.</p>

<p>We have a similar situation: I am Asian, my husband who died when the kids were relatively young was from South America. Their last name is Spanish, but they had to learn Spanish in school since it isn't spoken at home anymore. And while the oldest looks mixed race, the youngest looks 100% Asian. I anticipate interesting reactions when she goes to multicultural events, but she associates with both her Hispanic and Asian cultures, so that's what she's going to put down when the time comes.</p>

<p>Only Mexicans and Puerto Ricans? Thats odd. Why not all hispanics? Anyone know about Nicaraguan/Venezuelan?</p>

<p>All Hispanics are recognized as URMs. I believe that the point that rmadden was trying to make is that Puerto Ricans and Chicanos are the most under represented in colleges and therefore the most sought after.</p>

<p>^ Thank you. I used to think they were all equal in terms of being URMs, but there are actually divisions within Hispanic. I think that there are also divisions in the "asian" group, where Chinese, Korean, and Indian folks are ORM, but some other asians are less of an ORM.</p>

<p>Wow, only CC kids would subdivide URMs/ORMs.</p>

<p>One of my D's friends is Phillipino and she was considered a URM.</p>

<p>glassesarechic, I know. Most high schoolers, or at least at my school, believe that being asian is an advantage. It is funny what the lack of asians at my school can do to its students.</p>

<p>^I know, right? During French class this year, I told my classmates (there's only 5 other people in the class, and we were talking informally about college) that the top colleges are flooded by Asian applicants from California, and they looked at me like I'd just announced that I'm half German Shepherd.</p>

<p>No offense to whites, but this absurd. I am the son of Egyptian immigrants and I love America, but it is true that we DO face discrimination in all walks of life and we are NOT treated like whites in society, yet we are expected to mark this down on our application. Rediculous. My grandfather's family is nubian, which makes me 1/4 black. So I guess I can put African, but for other Egyptians they should atleast be able to mark other. North Africans face the same socio-economic problems as blacks in Africa and in America, and all in all, we consider ourselfs African because that is our home continent, just as Indians are considered Asian and etc. I'd like to hear other's thoughts.</p>

<p>wait under ORM, we all know Chinese and Koreans lead the way. Indians are somewhat of an ORM... however are Bengalis? From Bangladesh? What would Bengalis fall under?</p>

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wait under ORM, we all know Chinese and Koreans lead the way. Indians are somewhat of an ORM... however are Bengalis? From Bangladesh? What would Bengalis fall under?

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"We all know that Chinese and Koreans lead the way", if that isn't an ignorant generalization, I don't know what is. </p>

<p>And are you serious, of course "Bengalis" would be categorized as the same as Indians; Chinese and Korean too for that matter. In fact, to admissions officers, you're just "Asian or Pacific Islander" on paper. Who's anal enough to subdivide ORMs?</p>

<p>What about Indian? (south asian)</p>

<p>yea maybe that came out a bit wrong. However, bengalis are NOT overrepresented in top colleges. Does that not defeat the purpose of affirmative action... i just do not like the idea of this affirmative action. it penalizes hard workers because of their race/colour and lets in a lot of undeserving people. And yes, i would STILL feel the same way even if i was an URM.</p>

<p>i'm turkish and i'm putting other :P</p>

<p>^ @ TheProtagonist, Me, thank you.</p>

<p>Shad Faraz, why do you assume they are undeserving? Are you assuming their scores or grades aren't as good as yours? Don't you think that's prejudiced? Just because someone is belongs to an URM, it doesn't meant they're not high achievers.</p>