<p>We are talking about illegal immigrants, no? What is the race of most of them?</p>
<p>The one I married is Caucasian. Perhaps, I am missing your point, too.</p>
<p>acting, no one is better at batting their eyes innocently than you. 8-> Give me a break.</p>
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<p>scholarme, you should read up on who gets the most welfare in this country. Hint: it isn’t the brown people.</p>
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<p>This conversation isnt about welfare. But, I’ll bite. The race with the largest number of welfare recipients in this country is white. Not surprising since there are so many white people here. </p>
<p>That said, if you are illegal and therefore dont qualify for welfare, but your kids get free lunch, does THAT count as getting welfare? Probably not.</p>
<p>I was responding to these quotes of scholarme’s, which I later said I may have misinterpreted:</p>
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<p>Sally, thanks. ;
If you’re suggesting (and I’m not sure you are) that everyone who is troubled by the seeming willingness of our leaders to ignore immigration laws of late and accommodate illegals at the expense of our own citizens is racist you are just wrong. Some of the people screaming the loudest about this issue are inner city residents who know that we have plenty of problems here already and really don’t need to go outside of our own borders to round up millions more. I do happen to know a little bit about immigration laws and procedures, though. That’s true. </p>
<p>Before Colorado allowed non-documented student to pay instate tuition in college, many figured out a different way to attend community college. They delayed graduating from high school. As long as they were under 21 and enrolled in a public high school (legal resident or not), they could dual enroll and the state would pay their college tuition, books, everything as a high school student. One high school principal openly encouraged this, even had his GC’s recommend it, because he got credit for having a high school student (state funding per student) and he didn’t really have to provide much at the high school. It was a school that had a high drop out rate, so it benefited him to have ‘5th and 6th year’ students. It went on for a few years before the state stopped the practice. It’s still common for home schooled kids to not officially graduate, dual enroll, and have the state pay for community college.</p>
<p>So it’s not just the “illegals” potentially taking advantage of the situation? Either way, that seems wrong. </p>
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<p>In Calif a principal was outed for purposely preventing teachers from improving reading skills because the school got more money when a certain % were reading below grade level. One teacher exposed this after being reprimanded for doing “too good of a job”. Ugh.</p>
<p>@cobrat - "It’s not preventing them from studying theology or divinity. It’s preventing them from DOING SO USING PUBLIC FUNDS TO AVOID LEGAL CONFLICTS ARISING FROM THEIR USE IN SUPPORTING RELIGIOUS EDUCATION.</p>
<p>It’s derived from the separation of church and state idea derived from the First Amendment in which government may not establish or grant favor to a given religious organizations with a few notable exceptions. Religious education is definitely not one of those exceptions."</p>
<p>Um… I’m pretty sure kids can get Pell Grants to study theology. Which I thought was public funds…</p>
<p>In Florida, a student can use state funds to study at any school in the state, public or private, religious or not, both Bright Futures and Florida Resident grant. Also federal funds. This is just a choice Missouri made not to include those fields of study (which is rather strange, as I don’t know many community colleges that offer theology).</p>
<p>“Uhm, they cannot even speak English. I agree, the demographics are changing really fast now, intentionally.”</p>
<p>My grandparents couldn’t speak Englidh, and there children, grandchildren, and great-children became doctors, lawyers, teachers, artists, writers, musicians, entrepreneurs, and soldiers. </p>
<p>It’s all very arbitrary. A few years after they came xenophobes passed laws that would have made their immigration illegal because they weren’t the right kind of people. </p>
<p>The discussion was about persuading them to vote for one party over another. My grandparents didn’t speak English either. So what? I just think we should enforce our laws and I have no clue why that is even controversial.</p>
<p>Well they can’t vote if they aren’t citizens! This isn’t about voting. Those here without documentation are not on a path to citizenship.</p>
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<p>I thought the kids under this rule were lifelong US residents and high school graduates? I’m guessing they speak English just fine.</p>
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<p>In my state all that is needed to get instate tuition for state schools is to graduate from a high school in the state and have proof of having lived here for 2 years. That’s it. </p>
<p>Yup, overstay your visa and attend high school in the US for a few years, show little income, and you get a free college education in some states. Isn’t America great?</p>
<p>I think of education as an investment and given the positive externalities, do not have a problem with the state subsidizing it for people who will contribute to society going forward (and I’m speaking as someone in a high tax bracket as well).</p>
<p>Unlike the federal government, states can’t run at a deficit. If you spend more money on X, then you have less to spend on Y. </p>
<p>In this case, more money will now be spent on the A+ scholarships than budgeted. They may not be able to pay out the full amount to each student. How much short could they be? I really have no idea. MO has about 60,000 illegal immigrants (about 1.3% of the workforce), while CA has over 2.55 Million (about 10% of the workforce). They (the state education department) may be able to move some funds around to make up for any shortfalls. </p>
<p>This unexpected expense will have to be dealt with by the state legislature during its’ next session. Either they will allocate more funding (if needed) or change the edibility “language” used for A+ scholarships.</p>