<p>No, it will not be a mistake. She should not apply them. Good luck with the rice application.</p>
<p>She might start looking at PARTICULAR schools in the Northeast because they are strong in particular areas she’s interested in and have a campus culture she likes. </p>
<p>When my young NYC neighbors start looking at schools like Grinnell or Carleton or Kenyon, I don’t assume they are dying to go to college outside the Northeast. I assume they are interested in LACs.</p>
<p>We did meet people visiting Rice who were just applying for name appeal. I asked a couple people who were by us why they were looking at Rice, and they answered, because it was a top school. We actually had reasons. My daughter loves the residential college system. My mother went there. My daughter says she’s loves the research opportunities. She sat in on some sessions and loved everything about it. The fact that it is not far away is great. I suspect my children are “allergic” to cold, lol. They refuse to go outside when it gets below 60. And funny thing, we did get snow this year, for a few hours. I tried to show the snow to my 1yr old. She screamed! She was scared of it. I am sure she will grow out of it, she is just one. But the point is, there is no love of winter in my children.</p>
<p>jonri, I never said kids did not apply to Rice because of prestige. In the OP’s case, she SAID she does not want to go far from home. Rice is apparently relatively close, and maybe better–for her–than other options within a radius she feels comfortable with. </p>
<p>I just do not understand the northeast-centeredness on this site at all. And I say that as someone who is from NYC and spent my entire childhood on the east coast.</p>
<p>lmkh: there is no love of winter anymore in my midwestern-born and -bred children either. My son has fled for warmer climes and my daughter is already itching to get below the Mason-Dixon line. We have all had it…especially this winter.</p>
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<p>That’s probably true. Brown has a page with detailed admission stats that is probably comparable to most other top schools. Only 3% of the applicants not in the top 10% of the class get accepted. One might presume that those individuals often have hooks – athletes, URMs, sons and daughters of the famous – or have world-class ECs.</p>
<p>[Admission</a> Facts | Undergraduate Admission](<a href=“Undergraduate Admission | Brown University”>Undergraduate Admission | Brown University)</p>
<p>Nevertheless, lots of folks get admitted to more elite schools while getting rejected or waitlisted from less-competitive schools. It’s worth a try, as long as some match schools and safeties are also in the mix.</p>
<p>Don’t apply but I will saying that not liking any brands because they are brands is as juvenile as liking brands because they are brands.</p>
<p>At least educate yourself on what best meets her needs educationally, financially, emotionally, etc.</p>
<p>Plus it sounds like she has a name brand boyfriend that doesn’t share her hipster ways. She may be more flexible than she lets on.</p>
<p>but is in the top 12%</p>
<p>Sounds like a waste of time and money since your D isn’t interested and her ranking isn’t high.</p>
<p>what is her ACT?</p>
<p>Apply to what interests you and you can afford. Ivy or no Ivy.</p>
<p>“I do not understand the northeast-centeredness on this site at all. And I say that as someone who is from NYC and spent my entire childhood on the east coast”</p>
<p>It’s provincialism, pure and simple (and I was born and grew up on the east coast too). To seriously think only the Ivies are all that and that there’s a second, lower class of “good outside the northeast”? That just screams unworldly and untraveled to me.</p>
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<p>They get a lot of snow in the northeast. Thus, there is a lot of room for all the “special snowflakes” that Pizzagirl writes about. ;)</p>
<p>“A lot of kids here who apply to schools like Rice, Vanderbilt or Emory–prestigious schools outside the Northeast–apply because they know they might not get into Ivies and want to go to the most prestigious school that will admit them.”</p>
<p>And a lot of them apply to those schools because the weather is better!!!</p>
<p>My DD sounds exactly like yours! And she did NOT apply to any Ivy’s even though the financial aid packages are known to be good. So far she has been accepted to WashU, UChicago, UIUC, USC and ND. Two of these schools have provided full tutition FA awards - so it is not only the Ivy’s that can come through with $$.</p>
<p>My DS was accepted to Rice 3 years ago and it was his dream school. They refused to negotiate on $$ so he is currently attending ND.</p>
<p>If your DD doesn’t want Ivy - why push it? She can do well elsewhere.</p>
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<p>You always make this point, but I don’t think it is it correct. It has more to do with the fact that some people consider NYC to be the center of the universe. The ivies are within the NYC intellectual/geographic/cultural realm and comfort zone. Very simple, really. Nothing to do with travel or worldliness.</p>
<p>Refusing to go outside one’s comfort zone reeks of provincialism. In my experience some of the most east-coast-centric people I know are incredibly opinionated about how awful the south is–without ever having visited it. In fact, they claim they are “afraid” to go there because they would not feel comfortable. They might cut the midwest a bit more slack because a) they live here now or b) because it contains Chicago. But the people like this who live here are also not people who would vacation in the northwoods or settle for their kids going to college anywhere but the northeast.</p>
<p>I think it’s very funny that my son who really didn’t want to look outside the NE (though he did almost get seduced by U of Chicago) has spent his entire junior year abroad in the mideast and will likely be looking for work overseas when he graduates from college. You just never know. </p>
<p>My older son refused to look at colleges in the south because he loathes hot weather. He’s the one who wore nothing but a lightweight fleece all winter long his senior year in high school. He went to college in Pittsburgh which in my book is the midwest.</p>
<p>My grandparents live in Florida, one uncle lived in Greensboro NC, and my parents spent about 10 years in Lexington, VA, so I have a pretty good idea of both the ups and downs of northerners living in the south. Like anywhere, there are good and bad things about the area(s). You couldn’t pay me to retire to Florida!</p>
<p>My son didn’t feel any of the Ivies would have been a good fit. Brown would have come closest, but it was way bigger than he wanted. There were so many small LACs that were great fits, so he focused on them. He actually did prefer to leave the NE, wanted to experience a different part of the country.</p>
<p>OP–my only input to you is not to assume your D will be accepted by Rice. A neighbor of mine had Rice as a first choice school. She had everything–test scores, GPA, ECs, leadership, awards, etc. and she didn’t get into Rice. I’m sure you know that your D needs to find some options that are great schools, but less selective than Rice. Best wishes! My son spent 4 happy years at Grinnell.</p>
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<p>Does your D realize that BF he has a “brand” is still working on his “brand”?</p>
<p>Why would you want your daughter to apply to a school that she has no interest in just because her current boyfriend is applying there?</p>
<p>Also, if finances are an issue, you might want to search some threads about need based aid and Rice. Some folks have been less than thrilled with the need based aid they received. If you have anything unusual about your finances (self employed, own multiple properties, etc) their net price calculator might not be as accurate as if you have straight income from a job.</p>