<p>You're free to speculate on that. We don't say that Nixon "was fired" as President, we say he resigned. I'm just encouraging factual reporting: no need to exaggerate for effect on this one.</p>
<p>Ok, so god came in her dream last night and told her to tell the truth to everybody and resign form her post. I salute to her.</p>
<p>My guess is it's more likely an angry rejected applicant Googled or spent time calling around and called in to bust her.</p>
<p>I answered your late-edit addition of "Dean spends time with folders..." comment on the other thread.</p>
<p>But what does it say when "an angry rejected applicant" with Google and a phone can expose a falsehood that was right under MIT's nose for so many years?</p>
<p>Or did someone at MIT already know this? Would Jones have resigned if she hadn't been outed?</p>
<p>Wow... I read about it in the Crimson... I don't know what to say.</p>
<p>holy *<strong><em>ing *</em></strong>.......</p>
<p>I am so befuzzled. </p>
<p>I doubt anything will be changed though... Seeing that MIT has changed its direction for quite some time now...</p>
<p>I wonder how this will affect the yield for this year.</p>
<p>Not only that, but she wrote a book. Wow, just wow, just wow.......................</p>
<p>How ironic that the person who lowered the qualifications of accepted applicants (wanting to focus on the whole person, not just their accomplishments) had no paper accomplishments of her own. The title of this thread in light of this new information -- wow, indeed.</p>
<p>lol InquilineKea's response is hilarious. A little surprised, perhaps?</p>
<p>I was incredibly surprised. Even though I didn't agree with her policies, I respected her and I never thought that she would stoop so low.</p>
<p>"With colleges demanding kids who play sports, run student government and take the heaviest course load they can, Jones shouted back the opposite: daydream, stay healthy, and don't worry so much about building a resume just to impress an elite college."</p>
<p>Of course she shouts that; she was probably a slacker who didn't take the heaviest course loads or extracurriculars. She tells others to "daydream" and that credentials are not that important because she doesn't have any. Someone like her having a say on who is admitted to MIT or not contaminates the whole admissions process because she has no idea what a scholar is. Her flawed leadership probably influenced the rejection of many qualified applicants for unqualified ones. I hope she gets sued for fraud and has to go to prison or is fined heavily.</p>
<p>I never thought that Marilee was the type to do that - it could have happened to someone else.</p>
<p>Hmm, they never checked..</p>
<p>How common are triple degrees, anyways? (triple degrees where it's not BS, MS, PhD). There would have to be some overlap, considering that "misrepresenting" a PhD would be far more risky than "misrepresenting" a BS/MS.
And she was always labeled as a "scientist". Yet I see no evidence of her being one. Certainly, any institutions that would recruit scientists would check on the validity of a degree...</p>
<p>I can't tell if the poster above is joking or not ... :(.</p>
<p><em>edit</em> Two posts above me, #389.</p>
<p>It is interesting to note the differences in reactions between those who had respected this woman and want desperately to salvage some part of her reputation and ideas and those who recognize how outrageous it is for a dean of admissions to falsify her own credentials to obtain her position and influence. </p>
<p>Those trying to hold on will insist that even without the college credentials she is still credible. That argument will fall of it's own weight since MIT is all about getting access to some of the best credentials. If credentials are not important then why is getting into MIT important? </p>
<p>Ultimately, it will come down to the woman is a fraud and a hypocrite because that is exactly what she is. If you say it doesn't matter that she lied since she was good at her job, then the whole fragile system of educational integrity implodes. Let's all falsify our educational credentials and put down any school or degree we wish in order to get our dream job. If we are really nice people, what does it matter?</p>
<p>The absolute irony of having credentials judged by one with false credentials. I do not understand how anyone can rise to her defense. She's responsible for many of the silly (for lack of a better word) policies MIT admissions has implemented in recent years. No wonder, she her self could never make it.</p>
<p>"those trying to hold on will insist that even without the college credentials she is still credible. That argument will fall of it's own weight since MIT is all about getting access to some of the best credentials. If credentials are not important then why is getting into MIT important?"</p>
<p>MIT is one of the best (if not the best) technological institution on the planet and its success and quality cannot be discredited by the actions of one person. To think so is just silly</p>
<p>"It is interesting to note the differences in reactions between those who had respected this woman and want desperately to salvage some part of her reputation and ideas and those who recognize how outrageous it is for a dean of admissions to falsify her own credentials to obtain her position and influence."</p>
<p>I don't think those two groups are disjoint...</p>
<p>I was always against the policies but I respect her and think this can't destroy her large and mostly positive impact on MIT. People who are trying to connect up this debacle and the rest of the universe are being ridculous.</p>
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I was always against the policies but I respect her and think this can't destroy her large and mostly positive impact on MIT. People who are trying to connect up this debacle and the rest of the universe are being ridiculous.
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You respect her, Ben? Oh, in that case I can come out to the world. When I applied to Caltech I lied egregiously. Hah, I never really won Siemens, cured cancer, or stopped that armed robbery. But that's all in the past, right? You know, I am passing all my classes, so no harm done, right? I'm glad I still have your respect. While I'm at it, I might well apply to be on Caltech's admissions committee for next year.</p>
<p>MIT admissions is now proven to be dishonest. It is a fact. Period.</p>
<p>"I don't think those two groups are disjoint..."</p>
<p>No, the groups are disjointed. Those who would salvage her reputation and those who know that there is no reputation to salvage after her admission of fraud.</p>
<p>I thought the title of this thread was an exaggeration before, but Im not so sure anymore.</p>