MIT FAQ for application year 2011-2012 (with answers by MITChris)

<p>we prefer faxes for both those</p>

<p>sure! should i fax the stuff with a cover sheet or something, so you know who it’s from?</p>

<p>i’m applying EA. </p>

<p>i sent in two transcripts, one from my local school and one from an online school.</p>

<p>two weeks ago, i called MIT admissions after my SSR & Transcript box became inactive/processed. they told me that it was the transcript from my online school that got processed. i told them that i would have an SSR from my local school submitted through naviance. my local school transcript (including SSR) is submitted about 3 days after my call and about a week before my recommendations are sent, and both recs are processed already.</p>

<p>is there any way my second transcript can be tracked through the MyMIT page, or do I have to call admissions later to check again?</p>

<p>I am applying for Regular Action from India, I have the following four questions and it would be great if you can help me with them.</p>

<p>1) Under Deadlines & Requirements it is given that the deadline for “Standardized tests” is “January testing date”. In India the test date available for SAT in January (both Reasoning and Subject Tests) is Jan 28, '12.</p>

<p>I am little worried. The date to submit majority of the application is 1st January. And I read somewhere that it might take about 15 days for the exam results to reach you. So, my question is, will giving the test on 28 Jan have any chance whatsoever that my results do not reach you in time and my application is not considered?</p>

<p>2) There is also a test date for 3 Dec. Say, I give both of those tests. Would the better result be considered?</p>

<p>3) In India, the exams for my current standard are to be held in March, with results to be announced sometime in April. It is not possible for me to provide you with my grades before the deadline. Is it okay if they are not given? Will it affect my probability of getting selected in any way.</p>

<p>4) Is it okay to contact my EC (Interviewer) via phone or should I stick to e-mail?</p>

<p>Thank you.</p>

<p>EDIT: I forgot to ask about TOEFL. There are 4 test dates from here till Jan end. If I take more than one, will the highest score be considered?</p>

<p>Is there anyway to find out if a research mentor’s letter was received since it is not one of the check boxes.</p>

<p>^ You can call and ask</p>

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This isn’t really an answerable question. In general, a single B in anything isn’t going to hurt you a great deal, but further than that, no one can say.</p>

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Have you read my thread from a few days ago: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/massachusetts-institute-technology/1235082-ea-applicants-please-read.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/massachusetts-institute-technology/1235082-ea-applicants-please-read.html&lt;/a&gt;
I don’t know what the latency is for recs submitted online, but if there is a problem, you will get a chance to have your teacher re-send the rec. In all likelihood, the status will be updated within the next week or so.</p>

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As Chris mentioned, you could fax either. If your resume is short, you could also copy-paste it (or a selection of items on it) into the “additional info” box on the application. </p>

<p>Cover sheets are a generally good idea for any fax.</p>

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For additional materials, you would have to call. The MyMIT tracking doesn’t cover additional transcripts/recs/etc.</p>

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As you state, MIT accepts January tests for RD (as long as you designate MIT as a score recipient at the time you take the test). This is a standing admissions office policy.</p>

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Yes. From the admissions website, emphasis mine: “If you take the same test (SAT, ACT, or an SAT Subject Test) multiple times, we will consider the highest score achieved in each section. We do this in order to consider all applicants in their best light.”</p>

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MIT is very familiar with Indian applicants, and applicants in non-US schools are not required to submit a mid-year grade update.</p>

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You can use any contact information provided in MyMIT.</p>

<p>Thank you for the quick reply. You missed a small thing,</p>

<p>3) In India, the exams for my current standard are to be held in March, with results to be announced sometime in April. It is not possible for me to provide you with my grades before the deadline. Is it okay if they are not given? Will it affect my probability of getting selected in any way.</p>

<p>I ask only because, I have read at various places (and heard in a video of a webcast by one of your admissions officer, uploaded by MITAdmissions at vimeo) that you consider grades a lot. If not being able to give the grades will indeed hurt my chances, what can I do to fix that?</p>

<p>I want to try my best to get in. (As does everyone.) So, I do not want to leave any unchecked variables.</p>

<p>Also, is there any preference by you between SAT Reasoning or TOEFL? In the admissions guideline I was “strongly recommended” to give TOEFL. And I am leaning towards TOEFL right now, but if giving SAT instead gives me even an iota of an edge I would like to start working on that.</p>

<p>What I am curious about is, how would you compare me (who gives, say TOEFL) and another random Indian guy (who gives SAT). Would you select whoever got a higher percent of marks (x/100)? (considering that all other aspects of the application are the same)</p>

<p>Thanks, once again.</p>

<p>Hi MITChris,
I’m wondering how hard to stress over the subject tests. Will a 740 on the Math2 as opposed to a 800 really make/break me? I have an otherwise solid (I hope) application, straight As in advanced math classes, and a 5 on the BC Calc exam. I’d rather focus on maintaining semester grades than prepping for the SATs, but most people in my school score 750+ so I’m not sure. Thanks!</p>

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No, I did not miss it: I said, “MIT is very familiar with Indian applicants, and applicants in non-US schools are not required to submit a mid-year grade update.” To be more explicit, your situation is not unusual (other international applicants are unable to submit grades prior to end-of-year exams), and international applicants are not required to submit mid-year grades anyway, therefore you will not be disadvantaged by your inability to submit grades.</p>

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No. There is absolutely no preference. </p>

<p>From [Matt’s</a> blog](<a href=“http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/testing_requirements_faq_1]Matt’s”>Testing requirements FAQ | MIT Admissions),

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No.</p>

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No.</p>

<p>I guess that answers most of my queries. Thanks. I do have a last one. It isn’t really necessary but I am curious, considering that you say that you are familiar with the system here.</p>

<p>You say that recommendations from two subject teachers are absolutely required. It isn’t really a problem for me, but in India you can find English-Medium schools where even the Teachers themselves are not very good at it (English), including the English teacher. And when I say not very good at it I mean making mistakes about is/are, singular/plural. That might sound unrealistic but the fact remains that it is the truth. This is the situation with my Chem teacher so I will ask the Physics one to fill my recommendation instead. I don’t know if you guys know about this stuff or not, just curious what’s your take on it. And before you ask, we students also wonder how they got their jobs. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Also, in India the most respected Engineering college is IIT. IIT (and most colleges) only insist that you get 70%+ (something around that) in your 12th standard, and rest all depends on the entrance exam, no interview is conducted for the college admission. And the problem here is that the syllabus for entrance exam is way higher than what is taught in schools for the 12th final exam. That coupled with the incompetence of some teachers as you see above, 90%+ students (who can afford it) go to institutes whose primary focus is to get you ready for IIT, which indirectly also helps you to finish your 12th Syllabus. This resulted in creation of what we (students) refer to as non-attending schools. In these schools you are a student but are not required to attend classes, only give exams. And students instead just go to institutes. This is necessary because passing 12th boards is a requirement by all colleges. Earlier in the year I planned to attend such a school for a while though I finally did not. The decision to apply at MIT came only recently. My question is, hypothetically, if I was in this situation, what would I be expected to do? When I do not even know the name of my teachers?</p>

<p>There are students with very high potential here. But the requirements you ask from schools can somehow limit them. Instead if you only focus on the student, I think you will learn a lot more than any teacher could tell you, in fact it has practically zero probability that any teacher here can answer what you are looking for. Most just enter the class, scribble derivations on the board and leave when the bell rings. Zero interaction with students besides that. And that isn’t really the students fault in my opinion, they have lack of resources, not skill.</p>

<p>Is it permissible to dance (out of excitement) from mid-December until September 5th (first day of classes) if I am accepted to MIT?! :S </p>

<p>The common data set says, “Although not required, it is strongly recommended.”</p>

<p>haha :)</p>

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I want to be very clear about one thing: I am saying that MIT is familiar, not that I personally am familiar. I am an MIT alum, class of 2006, who has worked as a student blogger for the admissions office in the past. I am not (nor have I ever been) on the admissions committee. MITChris, who also posts in this thread, is an MIT admissions officer, but I am not.</p>

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It’s not required that the teachers who write the letters have outstanding English skills, and their skills in English are not judged when judging the content of the letter. If it’s easier for them to write the letter in another language, that is allowed and is perfectly fine – an English translation must accompany the letter, but the letter itself can be written in another language.</p>

<p>As for the difficulty of putting together a competitive application for MIT from India, I can only really point out that MIT’s requirements are consistent with other US schools. American universities have found that recommendation letters from teachers are helpful to them in determining which students are the most promising. Indian schools have different priorities, but of course Americans who were interested in applying to the IITs would have to follow the rules of the IITs even though American requirements are quite different.</p>

<p>MIT is familiar with the process of secondary schooling in India and in many other systems around the world, and they do consider a student’s background and the resources available to the student when making a decision. At the present time, there are 31 Indian undergraduates studying at MIT, which is more than any other country except China, and which is about 10% of the foreign undergraduates at MIT.</p>

<p>Fair Enough. I would like to say once again, thanks for all the help. I seem to remember that I read somewhere that a student needs to get a minimum amount of marks on TOEFL, but I can not find it again. Any idea what it was?</p>

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Minimum for iBT is 90 and minimum for PBT is 577. You can check it on [the</a> admissions website.](<a href=“http://mitadmissions.org/apply/international/intltests]the”>International applicants | MIT Admissions)
I don’t know if it works like a cut-off point but I think they may also consider if you have 89 points or such.
If you have enough English to go thru subjects tests, then you probably have enough to score 90. However be careful in the Speaking section.</p>

<p>Good lucks!</p>

<p>Speaking section is what I am worried about. My pronunciation and grammar are fine but my Dad says I speak too fast and loud. >_></p>

<p>I’m planning on mailing my EC for my interview. </p>

<ol>
<li>What exactly should the content of the email include apart from my contact info?</li>
<li>Is it better to mail or call?</li>
<li>I’m a gap year student who studied abroad. Does it matter if the interviewer may not be familiar with my schooling?</li>
</ol>

<p>Thank you</p>

<p>When decisions are announced, what is the polite protocol in regards to notifying the EC who interviewed you? Will they also receive notification? Is another thank you expected?</p>

<p>Thank you.</p>

<p>will EA decisions be released on december 15?</p>

<ol>
<li>does it matter in the slightest whether i put “i will schedule my interview” or “i had my interview on…” when i submit my application?</li>
<li>does the EC get my application before the interview? If not, should I bring him a copy?</li>
</ol>