** MIT International Applicants' Thread 2017 **

<p>I think the indians that Ive seen in the mit forums actually (no offence) tend to ask REALLY STUPID QUESTIONS. It’s something that is pretty annoying tbh, on the forums when they ask things like ‘what JEE score is needed for MIT’ or ‘what admissions test do I need for MIT?’ when they can clearly see that info on the website :@</p>

<p>lol… its hilarious actually. People in IndiA do not know ****:wink: 1 question though
can somebody give me a ratio of SAT/awesome ecs for admission to any college actually( but in specific to MIT:)) if my GPA is pretty high!</p>

<p>Also abt research to olympiads(both intl.) cause in one reply to a post David said that both cannot be compared equally and it depends on the field and achievement. Cause i am VERY BAD at paper based tests!!:(</p>

<p>yes, making easy and very silly mistakes just happens for lot of test takers. But I’m not convinced with 720. Generally, the accepted limit for silly mistakes in SAT1 Math is 2 so about 750. As admission officers say, once you reach 750 in all subsections, you are qualified enough that you don’t need to take it again.</p>

<p>@rosemandoo:
Your international award is more important to admission officiers than an 800 on the SAT maths section :wink: besides, you scored 800 in the subject test ! I have a similar situation (IMO Silver / 730 SAT I Math/ 800 SAT II Maths 2C)</p>

<p>Just got pooled and then rejected by Cambridge… I need MIT now more than ever!!! Or I’ll have to stay in london and go to Imperial… :(</p>

<p>I wonder how much of high school science is needed for MIT. I’m confident I’m going to major econ/poli sci and I didn’t take any science AP lol I’m not sure the absence of AP science would ruin my chance. I instead took every possible math/ social science AP classes and advanced classes thou</p>

<p>I see lot of netizens emphasizing importance of math/science courses in high school for MIT admission.</p>

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<p>I got into Cambridge, but I’m kinda too poor to go, anyway. Imperial is my second choice, and used to be my first for a long time… I’d love to live in London.</p>

<p>I wish I knew about Cambridge before the MIT deadline, though, maybe it would give me some confidence boost… I was so sure I had no chance for MIT I decided not to apply at all, and then ended up writing all my essays over the last few hours before the deadline, tired, sick and hungover. I read them yesterday for the first time. Some are so so, but one is particularly terrible. Oh, well… :(</p>

<p>Yes, thank you imo404! It seems like some people just fail to realize that fact. Yes, I am Asian, and yes I would have a 2250 with an 800 on math, but I think after looking at my application, the immediate vibe you’ll get is that I’m actually more than just the 720 says. And that’s the whole point of writing essays - to show that you’re more than just that 720.</p>

<p>What do you have to pay for Cambridge ? The tuition fees are extrelemy lower than MIT’s !
Could’t you work during the year to pay it ?
I’ve seen a lot of people around here complaining about Cambridges fees…</p>

<p>My friend who got into Cambridge with full ride told me that it would cost about 30,000 pounds (about 50,000$) per year for tuition fee, boarding/living and pocket money so he wouldn’t be able to attend Cambridge if it wasn’t for the scholarship. I think it is still cheaper than studying at MIT.</p>

<p>According to the Cambridge website, the tuition is 9,000£ (about 14,000$) for students from Europe, and from 10,000£ to 20,000£ for international students, depending on your major (16,000$-32,000$). This is really cheaper than MIT…</p>

<p>I remember a thread about someone (from Europe) accepted to Cambridge but who refused to attend because of the cost… He then explained he took a gap year to self-study science courses (he hadn’t any sciences courses during his H.S years), and all this in order to now apply to MIT, which, he said “more affordable”. In don’t see how it is more affordable. And I remember thinking this man was crazy : accepted to one of the world’s best university, refusing the offer and taking a gap year with no guarantee to get accepted to MIT (or even to get re-accepted at Cambridge), and all that while saying that MIT’s fees were cheaper. </p>

<p>I know MIT offers financial aid to international students, so it may be easier to pay for it, but I don’t think it’s really difficult earning ~ 6,000£ a year (usual half time job) and getting a loan covering the other 3,000£ (I mean, when you go to Cambridge, you know that you will repay your loan) to attend Cambridge, neither.</p>

<p>My parents earn a lot of money, so I won’t get any Financial aid (It’s not even worth applying, it’s ridiculous), but due to some problems (big loan on our house, education to pay for my 2 siblings, crazy 75% taxes rates, etc.) they won’t be able to pay the “expected family contribution” (except if they sell our house, which I really don’t want them to). I know I will have to work a lot to pay for my education, with no chance of getting financial aid, so I find it a bit silly when people complain about 9,000£ tuition fees.</p>

<p>Perhaps, he said MIT is more affordable since MIT has need blind policy even for internationals, so he would only have to afford living costs.
BTW, hennebou, I thought you were from England, is it correct? Your reference to 75% (income) tax rates makes me think of France.</p>

<p>I’m from France.
And you’re right, the 75% tax is for income… There’s also a “tax on fortune” : you have to pay ~2% of the values of your belongings (like your T.V, paintings, house, cars…) to the state each year, if you your belongings are over a certain level. It’s crazy.</p>

<p>Wow, I feel so bad for you. That socialist government is absolutely ridiculous. Even North Korean government charges 70% income tax on its citizens. As a prospective econ major student, that French government outrages me. For me who values individual’s social and economic freedom, I can honestly say France has gone too far even for a socialist state. Your parents should consider immigration… My Korean parents who are charged only 38% income tax are having stressful time with 38% income tax and additional taxes.</p>

<p>I think I heard the 75% income tax threshold is about 1,300,000$ or more income per year. Your parents seem quite wealthy (in terms of formal income). The first 75% tax bill turned out to be a violation of constitution. It wasn’t because of its ludicrous tax rate but because of the way of taxing per individuals. So I assume the government is going to come up with a same, but slightly modified law. I really lost respect for French government from this event.</p>

<p>hennebou, the tuition fee is just a fee you pay the university. You still have to manage your living costs on top of that. (i.e. Accommodation, food, etc.). Cambridge estimates living costs as another £8,500 a year and I, too, have to earn it myself, as my mom makes maybe 2/3 of that and won’t help me at all. Except, Cambridge does not allow its students to work during term time. Not that Cambridge has actually anywhere to work.
Believe me, if I COULD go, I would. I’m working hard already, but it’s not easy.</p>

<p>All in all, I feel a bit insulted by your “a bit silly” remark.</p>

<p>@HateSMUS : Yeah the first tax bill is a violation of the constitution because it would create inequalities (2 married people earning 750k€ each would not pay the tax, while a couple where only one person works and earns 1M€ would pay the tax, etc.), but they’re going to change these points and try again. </p>

<p>The worst part is this “tax on fortune” : there’s an island in France, "l’</p>

<p>hennebou: Well, yeah, because I’m guessing a lot of people qualify for a lot of financial aid at MIT while there’s not much finaid at Cambs for non-English students. So, from the point of view of someone who’s from a poor background, MIT is A LOT more doable.</p>

<p>Well, kinda is and kinda isn’t. You can get an offer (like me), but then you still have to prove that you can manage financially to actually GO. So… That’s my biggest problem, actually. I need someone to sign that they have the funds to support me through Cambridge, but there is no-one to sign it for me because my mother doesn’t earn enough. I might be able to sign it for myself, but for that I need to present the sum up front.</p>