<p>That is what I mean. I don’t see a reason to fine the school.</p>
<p>The players who refused to shake hands should have been benched. After all, aren’t they in college to get an education?</p>
<p>“So, athletes can’t express their opinions?”</p>
<p>It’s classless behavior,Barrons. </p>
<p>“The nice thing about an opinion, you don’t really have to justify it to anyone else. “I don’t like PSU football”. You really going to argue with that? OSU does not like Michigan. Harvard v Yale. etc etc.”</p>
<p>Those are equally silly and embarrassing, though, except when done in a light-hearted fashion. Seriously, when someone from USC “hates” UCLA, or Mich “hates” Ohio State, or Duke “hates” UNC, normal people just roll their eyes at the stupidity of it all. </p>
<p>I guess I would say that athletes can’t express their opinions in ways that violate the rules of sportsmanship–at least, they shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it.</p>
<p>Maryland lacrosse:</p>
<p>Maryland’s Rambo Suspended Indefinitely; Cooper Dismissed
According to reports at the Baltimore Sun , Washington Post, and elsewhere, University of Maryland head lacrosse coach John Tillman suspended sophomore attackman Matt Rambo indefinitely and dismissed student assistant coach Brian Cooper late Friday.</p>
<p>The two were allegedly involved in an incident on October 22 which led to charges of first- and second-degree assault. They have a District Court appearance scheduled for November 24. For more information, see the links above.</p>
<p>As a freshman, Rambo started all 17 games for the Terrapins in the 2014 season, scoring 30 goals – including three game winners – and adding 6 assists. He was a three-time US Lacrosse High School All-American at LaSalle College High School in Wyndmoor, Pa.</p>
<p>2014-11-01</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=41054”>http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=41054</a></p>
<p>@LakeWashington - I didn’t say not shaking hands was poor sportsmanship (as it was); I’m just saying that isn’t why the penalty in the game was called. BTW - Lake Washington is maybe the best lake in the land!</p>
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<p>Yes. Unless Hitler is on the opposing team, you shake hands or whatever else is called for, and act in a generally sportsmanlike fashion. </p>
<p>“athletes can’t express their opinions? Maybe it was a comment on PSU’s sordid recent history in football. BTW PSU coaches have show disrespect for the two new BIG teams in their area”</p>
<p>Do you know how pathetic it sounds to whine that “PSU coaches have shown disrespect for the two new B1G teams in their area”? </p>
<p>I took a look at the coverage of this in the U.Md. newspaper, and the commenters who are defending this are saying that the Penn State coach started it by saying mean things about the Maryland team. I find that pathetic, as you say, Pizzagirl.</p>
<p>Emails released today as part of a lawsuit challenging the NCAA’s legal right to impose sanctions at all would indicate that the NCAA itself recognizes that self-imposed sanctions are the best line of attack, since threatening anything is a “bluff” (their own words, to each other in internal email) with little legal legitimacy. Universities are expected to fall on their sword in order to avoid NCAA sanctions or fines, but increasingly schools are fighting back, or at the very least the self-imposed sanctions are revenue-sparing. </p>
<p>No solutions here, just reporting. Personally, not shaking hands is no big deal. It’s kind of silly to pretend it’s some big field of honorable combat amongst gentlemen warriors. Just as silly as name-calling (and caring about it) before games. Such a first-world problem…</p>
<p>It seems to me that if those team captains thought their coach wouldn’t be angry at them for doing this, then there is something fundamentally wrong with the coaching.</p>
<p>Athletes do things they believe they can get away with. It isn’t always a reflection on the coaches. Look at the athletes out there who flout the law. Obviously, they know that assault, rape, and theft are crimes their parents and coaches would be angry about.</p>
<p>But these guys thought they could get away with refusing to shake hands on the field–if the coach was a stickler for sportsmanship, and if there were consequences for lapses of this kind, they would have known better. All three of them played in that game. Are they still team captains?</p>
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<p>I don’t think athletes do know that, given the frequency at which crimes by star athletes are covered up by coaches. Unfortunately Steubenville is not unrepresentative here.</p>
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<p>@Pizzagirl: I reject your idea of normalcy and prefer to substitute my own. On this, if nothing else, I suspect @poetgrl would agree with me. </p>
<p>Ha ha!</p>
<p>Yes. “To Hate Like This Is to Be Happy Forever.” </p>
<p>Also @someoldguy I think we could come to an easy and quick agreement on the thorny issue of BBQ</p>