<p>wow, I’m so ignorant on international politics I don’t know what this thread is about. what’s wrong with israel?</p>
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Oh god. I will admit that I know little about Israel’s policies but a quick background read makes it obvious that Israel/Palestinian wars aren’t exactly lopsided in terms of culpability.</p>
<p>Am I so old that I cannot tell if the OP is serious or a ■■■■■?</p>
<p>Do Jewish applicants really have more to worry about at NE schools than born-again Christians and Catholics, both large US groups not proportionally represented in the Ivy League?</p>
<p>Wow.</p>
<p>I don’t think this is a ridiculous question at all. Maybe the OP is strongly pro-Palestinian or pro-Israeli and simply wants to know. It’s just like asking if a college is conservative/liberal or gay-friendly.</p>
<p>What an ignorant post. You make it seem like being pro-Palestine is a bad thing? Why is it so wrong to be anti-Israel?</p>
<p>slitheytrove explains it exactly right. this issue is important for my son.</p>
<p>The problem in my opinion with this thread is that it tries to lump too many possible perspectives into one question that I doubt anyone can truly answer correctly. I think it would be better to ask:</p>
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<li>Would Jews feel targeted at this school?</li>
<li>Would someone who is pro-Israel feel out of place?</li>
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<p>Then probably the reverse</p>
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<li>Would Palestinians feel targeted at this school?</li>
<li>Would someone who is pro-Palestine feel out of place?</li>
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<p>Honestly, I don’t think 2 & 4 have any true significance, unless you are so die-hard passionate about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict that you need all your friends to agree with your viewpoint. One opinion on an international issue should not make you feel out of place at any school.</p>
<p>As far as question #1, I really don’t think Jews have too many problems at colleges, especially because they are such a large presence on most campuses. If you’re worried about that, you can take the small step of checking whether there is a Hillel.</p>
<p>Question #3 is probably the only debatable point, as I could potentially see this happening. However, unless you plan on attending a school such as Yeshiva University where there the majority of students are intently Jewish, I don’t believe this will come up. Popular sentiment is definitely shifting in favor of the Palestinians, because the argument is so compelling.</p>
<p>Essentially, I don’t believe that being pro- or anti-Israel will make or break your college experience, wherever you choose to go.</p>
<p>And I would suggest that in the future you say “pro-Palestinian” instead of “anti-Israel,” it will probably make less pro-Israel supporters angry at you.</p>
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<p>I have strong opinions on this subject and am finding it hard to resist a rant. Suffice it to say that of course one can reasonably oppose certain Israeli policies, but without denying its right to exist; this is what “anti-Israel” comes down to for many Muslims and their sympathizers.</p>
<p>Anyway I agree with those who suggest that these issues generally comprise a poor basis for selecting a college. Any balance of opinion easily can shift with each graduating class.</p>
<p>I’m still waiting for a definition of what “anti-Israel” is.</p>
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<p>Let’s start with what it is not. Disagreeing with policies of the Israeli government is not ipso facto anti-Israeli. This of course is no more the case than disagreeing with policies of the US government is, per se, anti-American.</p>
<p>Denying Israel’s right to exist is anti-Israel. Anti-Israel propaganda attempts to cast doubt on the motives, legitimacy and justice of the nation’s modern settlement, the state’s founding and continued existence, or its actions taken in self-defense. It casts doubt by denying, ignoring, or glossing over significant historical events. These events include the holocaust, the legal sale of land in Palestine over a 100-year period to Jewish settlers, the repeated attacks by neighboring nations against the territory of Israel, or the unremitting terrorist attacks against the citizens of Israel and its allies. The purpose of anti-Israel propaganda is to undermine support for Israel’s very existence.</p>
<p>^ Undermining Israel’s right to exist is anti-Israel … got it, and no argument there. But that’s different from examples the OP gave, unless one believes that having Muslim students on campus equates to wanting Israel gone. And divesting stocks of Israeli companies is usually due to disagreement with Israeli policies, rather than clear expression of a desire to see Israel gone.</p>
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Hampshire College (divested from Israel earlier this year)
Swarthmore College (very close to divesting from Israel)
Evergreen State College (Rachel Corrie’s alma mater, surprise surprise)
University of Michigan (large Palestinian/Lebanese pop.)
Earlham College (ditto)
University of Rochester (protested the Gaza War with occupation)
University of California Irvine (Muslim Student groups very active)
MIT (Noam Chomsky teaches there)
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<p>^ Yes, I think we agree.
Having Muslim students on campus does not equate to wanting Israel gone. I don’t think a divestment policy is a clear anti-Israel action in that sense, and probably is not a good basis for deciding to attend or not attend one of these schools.</p>
<p>But if divestment is not anti-Israel in that sense, what is it? What is the point of it? The last widespread college divestment movement was against South African apartheid. Divestment by American institutions probably played a significant role in bringing down apartheid. What’s the objective in this case? How is Israel supposed to change?</p>
<p>Denying Israel’s right to exist is anti-Israel. Anti-Israel propaganda attempts to cast doubt on the motives, legitimacy and justice of the nation’s modern settlement, the state’s founding and continued existence, or its actions taken in self-defense. It casts doubt by denying, ignoring, or glossing over significant historical events. These events include the holocaust, the legal sale of land in Palestine over a 100-year period to Jewish settlers, the repeated attacks by neighboring nations against the territory of Israel, or the unremitting terrorist attacks against the citizens of Israel and its allies. The purpose of anti-Israel propaganda is to undermine support for Israel’s very existence.</p>
<p>YES thats what I’m saying.</p>
<p>What I mean by anti-israel campuses are just that. Campuses where this kind of propaganda is spewed out on a regular basis like at Hampshire and Evergreen. I also mean campuses where clubs like SJP are way more active than Hillel or any pro-israel club and schools that have a lot of profs who are anti-israel. Like what are the campuses where the anti-israel students and profs have more control of campus than the pro-israel groups do.</p>
<p>And divestments are anti-israel and anti-semitic. In south africa black people couldnt vote. In Israel all groups have equal voting rights. Hampshire divests from israel and keeps doing business with iran and china. I wish all the 17% of their students who are jewish would transfer out to tell them their not going to be part of hampshires anti-semitic student body.</p>
<p>If u dont believe college campuses in america are anti-israel you should look at this:</p>
<p>[Anti-Semitic/Anti-Israel</a> Events on Campus](<a href=“You are being redirected...”>You are being redirected...)</p>
<p>[Campus</a> Anti-Israel Litmus Tests Must End - Campus Watch](<a href=“http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/2791]Campus”>http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/2791)</p>
<p>Criticizing Israel’s foreign policy does not equate to hating Jews. The ADL and other organizations overuse and exploit the term “anti-semite” to the extent where it doesn’t really mean anything anymore. Someone who advocates for Palestinian human rights is as anti-semitic as a neo-nazi?</p>
<p>[Campus</a> and Higher Education Affairs](<a href=“You are being redirected...”>You are being redirected...)</p>
<p>I think if you link to ADL, go for pages from the year 2009 not 2002, especially since things are probably worse today in the area that concerns you and many others.</p>
<p>Okay enough of the chit-chat. Lets get back to naming anti-israel campuses.</p>
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Isn’t Pro-Israel then, by extension, an undermining of Palestine’s existence?</p>
<p>It’s a clash of religious doctrines.</p>
<p>It’s more than religious doctrine. Israel is a sovereign nation. </p>
<p>Palestine, OTOH, is a bunch of illegal aliens squatting on Israeli land. I don’t blame Israel for being ticked.</p>
<p>OP, your criteria have become so specific and idiosyncratic that you won’t get the advice you’re seeking on this forum. Talk to your rabbi, your youth group leader, your teachers/principal (if you attend a day school). Contact AIPAC and the ADL. </p>
<p>That is, if you’re actually seeking advice on schools where you’ll feel comfortable. It’s sounding more like you just want to make a point. There are other forums for that.</p>