<p>Okay so we know Columbia also has a lot of anti-israel activities. Even if they told the truth about ahmadinejad they still let him speak. People like mahmoo should not be allowed on american soil. Shame on columbia.</p>
<p>And who was the person who said CSU long beach was anti-israel? I’d like more info on that campus.</p>
<p>You’re about nine years late on this. When i was in college pre 9/11, it was in vogue to be ‘anti-Israel’. The world’s sympathies changed and most people, even us intellectuals, are firmly against terrorism now.</p>
<p>CSU Long Beach is not known as an anti-Israeli campus. There is one professor, Kevin MacDonald, who testified on behalf of David Irving, a holocaust denier in London. Below is a link to just one of many articles regarding MacDonald. </p>
<p>[New</a> Times LA – In the Hot Seat](<a href=“http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/newtimes-Ortega2.html]New”>http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/newtimes-Ortega2.html)</p>
<p>I’m not anti-Israel, but I am pro-Palestine(is that a paradox or what) and I think more liberal schools(Hampshire is a great example) tend to have a similar view. We aren’t exactly anti-Israel, but we think the settlements need to stop. I also think the Palestinians need some of their lands back and more rights afforded to them(Note: I have a good friend who was born in “Palestine” and he has a difficult time getting a passport and such because the Israelis make it nearly impossible)</p>
<p>'m not anti-Israel, but I am pro-Palestine(is that a paradox or what) and I think more liberal schools(Hampshire is a great example) tend to have a similar view. We aren’t exactly anti-Israel, but we think the settlements need to stop. I also think the Palestinians need some of their lands back and more rights afforded to them(Note: I have a good friend who was born in “Palestine” and he has a difficult time getting a passport and such because the Israelis make it nearly impossible)</p>
<p>There is no palestine. Find a palestine on a map. Theres no such thing as pro-palestine because palestine doesnt exist and has never existed. If ur pro-palestine u could also be pro-neverland because that place doesnt exist either. Either u support israel or u dont.</p>
<p>Hampshire should have all fed. funding cut. America needs israel. If we dont have israel the arab terrorists will attack us again. What hampshire did is not only anti-israel and anti-semitic but also pro-terrorism.</p>
<p>You’re about nine years late on this. When i was in college pre 9/11, it was in vogue to be ‘anti-Israel’. The world’s sympathies changed and most people, even us intellectuals, are firmly against terrorism now.</p>
<p>********. Every liberal campus in america became anti-israel again after lebanon and even more anti-israel after operation cast lead. Name me five campuses that are more pro-israel then anti-israel and ill believe you.</p>
<p>I do not intend to get into a pro-Israel/anti-Israel or pro-Palestine/anti-Palestine debate. However feelsoalivetoday, you make two comments that I do not understand:</p>
<p>1) “There is no palestine. Find a palestine on a map. Theres no such thing as pro-palestine because palestine doesnt exist and has never existed. If ur pro-palestine u could also be pro-neverland because that place doesnt exist either.”</p>
<p>What’s your point exactly? Until 1948, Israel did not exist either. From the times of the Romans until 1948, there has never been an independent Israel or Palestine. However, for most of that period, what is Israel today was referred to as the Palestinian province by most invading forces, starting with the Eastern Roman Empire (300-600 AD), which referred to it as the “Palaestina” province. It was also often referred to as the Kingdom of Jerusalem. For example, during the first Ottoman wave (1500-1800 AD), Palestine ceased to exist and it was referred to merely by the name of its capital. There is no shame in a country not existing until recent times. Many nations had clear identidies and cultures but were denied the right to statehood by European powers. The UAE is such a country. Their culture and civilization dates back centuries, but it became a country in 1972. I don’t see how the fact that an indepedent Palestine never existed makes the identity any less real to those who identify with it.</p>
<p>2) “Hampshire should have all fed. funding cut. America needs israel. If we dont have israel the arab terrorists will attack us again.”</p>
<p>Can you please explain this. I am not sure I see how America either needs Israel or how Arab terrorists are somehow kept from attacking the US thanks to Israel. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that I am a Catholic Arab who’s family was held at gunpoint by Palestinians in my very own country of Lebanon, so I have absolutely no love for Palestine Palestinians.</p>
<p>2) “Hampshire should have all fed. funding cut. America needs israel. If we dont have israel the arab terrorists will attack us again.” Can you please explain this. I am not sure I see how America either needs Israel or how Arab terrorists are somehow kept from attacking the US thanks to Israel. </p>
<p>Listen israel is the only thing keeping america from being attacked again by arab terrorists. If america doesnt have israel protecting her the arabs will attack again. Israel and america need each other for each others survival. Without israel theres nothing stopping the arab terrorists and they will blow up more places in america.</p>
<p>This is why all the students at hampshire who voted for divestment are also anti-american. Any SJP club on any campus that spews anti-israel propaganda has no problem with the arabs attacking us. Its also why we have to make sure the students who are america’s future politicians, lawyers, lobbyists and journalists know the truth about the arab terrorists. The first thing we have to do is scoop out all the campuses that are largely anti-israel so we know where to work.</p>
<p>That does not make sense. You have only made a statement but failed to back it with any proof or reasoning. If anything the opposite of what you say is true. If the US spent that money defending its own soil instead of Israel, the US would be safer from terrorist attacks and ideologically, would distance itself from the conflict in Middle East. Anyway, universities should not be investing in the political arena. Universities should spend what little money they have on research, scholraships, facilities, dorms etc… The federal government can invest in protecting other nations if it so choses.</p>
<p>St. Johns U in Queens.</p>
<p>Anyway, universities should not be investing in the political arena. Universities should spend what little money they have on research, scholraships, facilities, dorms etc… The federal government can invest in protecting other nations if it so choses.</p>
<p>Ur wrong. the students of today will be the leaders of tomorrow. if their exposed to anti-israel propaganda on their campuses they will become anti-israel and vote for anti-israel politicians. This is a serious problem. look at these cases if u want:</p>
<p>[Palestinian</a> conference reveals Israeli-Palestinian debate on campus | The Pitt News](<a href=“Chancellor Gallagher sends memo on sexual assault - The Pitt News”>Chancellor Gallagher sends memo on sexual assault - The Pitt News)</p>
<p><a href=“http://standwithuscampus.com/?p=956[/url]”>http://standwithuscampus.com/?p=956</a></p>
<p>[UC</a> Santa Barbara Professor Spams Class With Graphic “Jews Are Nazis” Email | Mere Rhetoric](<a href=“Mere Rhetoric | Omri Ceren”>Mere Rhetoric | Omri Ceren)</p>
<p>Tell me why this doesnt bother u. what if someone on ur campus said it was ok for those arab terrorists to hold ur faily at gunpoint? thats what all these SJP campus groups are saying. arab terrorism is ok.</p>
<p>Anyway, universities should not be investing in the political arena. Universities should spend what little money they have on research, scholraships, facilities, dorms etc… The federal government can invest in protecting other nations if it so choses.</p>
<p>thats crap. this is a huge problem on every campus. students who are surrounded by anti-israel propaganda will end up supporting anti-israel policies by the gov. and thats a fact. what if someone on ur campus said to ur face that what the arab terrorists did to ur family was ok? because thats what the SJP groups on campuses are doing. there saying that arab terrorism is ok. it is happening on every campus and ur campus could be next:</p>
<p>[UC</a> Santa Barbara Professor Spams Class With Graphic “Jews Are Nazis” Email | Mere Rhetoric](<a href=“Mere Rhetoric | Omri Ceren”>Mere Rhetoric | Omri Ceren)</p>
<p>[Stand</a> With Us Campus TWO 18-YEAR-OLD ISRAELIS ON TOUR](<a href=“http://standwithuscampus.com/?p=956]Stand”>http://standwithuscampus.com/?p=956)</p>
<p>[Palestinian</a> conference reveals Israeli-Palestinian debate on campus | The Pitt News](<a href=“Chancellor Gallagher sends memo on sexual assault - The Pitt News”>Chancellor Gallagher sends memo on sexual assault - The Pitt News)</p>
<p>[VIDEO</a> EXCLUSIVE :: Dore Gold debates Goldstone at Brandeis | One Jerusalem :: Israel News & Analysis](<a href=“http://www.onejerusalem.org/2009/11/dore-gold-debates-goldstone-at.php]VIDEO”>http://www.onejerusalem.org/2009/11/dore-gold-debates-goldstone-at.php)</p>
<p>thanks feelsoalivetoday for giving me a list of colleges NOT to apply to, those kind of schools (super anti Israel) would make me sick.</p>
<p>Since the moderators refuse to close or move this thread, I think it needs a moderating voice. I hope that would be me. </p>
<p>I am Jewish, I am pro-Israel, I love Israel. But to me, being pro-Israel means being pro peace. Peace can come in two forms. A viable two (or three) state solution or a fragile one state solution. While I respect Alexandre - he’s an outstanding contributor to CC- I am not impressed with Lebanon as an example of a successful multi-ethnic one state solution. Lebanon is pretty fragile, and the fragility of the ethnic balance is the reason that 4th generation Palestinian refugees have no rights and no future. No, I believe that a two state solution in Israel/Palestine is much more achievable and can lead a lasting peace (for Lebanon too, when the Palestinians are invited to move to the new Palestinian state). </p>
<p>Right now, if we ignore Gaza for a moment (that’s a whole different discussion), there still is a viable two-state solution. There is a current partner for peace in Abbas who together with Fayyed has done a remarkable job within the last year or so in restoring security to the West Bank maintaining peace, rooting out terrorist elements, and building the government infrastructure needed to govern. Even the Israeli military has been impressed with the US-trained Palestinian security forces. This was especially true during the Gaza War. Abbas has done all that has been asked of him at great political cost to himself. But you must admit that he has vision and I respect the path he has taken. Few people in the West Bank have the stomach to see their towns look like Gaza does now, and there is more hope now than I can ever remember. But the public eviction of Palestinian families in East Jerusalem is a slap in the face to all Palestinians, Abbas and his whole team especially. It is a slap in the face to the United States. It is a slap in the face of American Jews who have supported Israel in the past but can’t stay silent with such a grave injustice. It has spawned J Street which will give AIPAC a run for its money. </p>
<p>A two-state solution does involve Israel relinquishing part, not all, of East Jerusalem. Barak, Olmert, Clintion, Livini and I’m sure Obama all realized this. Netanyahu will have to. The United States has invested a lot in training the Palestinian security forces and we should not and will not tolerate a reversion back to a greater conflict in the West Bank, this time perpetrated by Israel. Clearly, Hebrew University and the surrounding neighborhood would still be in Israeli Jerusalem, and so would Gilo, the Jewish neighborhood (or settlement, what you call it is irrelevant if you know the area) of the current building controversy. In prior negotiations, the maps have been combed and gone over and with the exception of the most contentious neighborhoods near the Old City, everybody knows what the ultimate two state solution will look like. There is no doubt that the predominantly Arab neighborhoods and the Arab parts of the Old City will be in the capital of a Palestinian state. The current push by the right wingers to Judaise East Jerusalem and create facts on the ground is directly contrary to the interests of the United States, and also contrary to the interests of Israel as a Jewish State. The Palestinians will never agree to a state that excludes a certain holy site, and will likely push for a one-state solution, despite all of it’s fragility, if they perceive the two-state solution has permanently failed. Pursuing the one-state solution peacefully would highlight the apartheid conditions and would probably succeed though I don’t see that leading to the repatriation of the Lebanese Palestinians for the same reason they are unwanted in Lebanon - they would upset the fragile ethnic balance. Fayyed has even said that Jews could remain and become citizens of Palestine as the Arab citizens in Israel could remain Israeli, removing some of the most difficult practical barriers of how large numbers of people would have to move from their homes. Though this statement went largely unnoticed, it shows me a real maturing of the Palestinian team. </p>
<p>It is not pro-Israel to silently watch her commit diplomatic suicide by pursuing an agenda that gets Arab families that have lived in their East Jerusalem homes since the 1950’s evicted by a double standard. It is not pro-Israel to be silent when racist settlers throw rocks at Palestinian children and yell “whore” at Palestinian women in Hebron who have done nothing to them. There is much terrorism against Arabs by Jewish settlers going on right now and it’s no more acceptable than rockets flying into Sderot. Most Israelis, Jews and everyone else deplore these things. It is not pro-Israel to watch the Netanyahu government marginalize the best partner for peace that the Palestinians have ever produced. </p>
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<p>For 2500 years, this solution has been used against Jews in Palestine, Spain, Portugal, Russia, Germany and finally all over the Middle East after the creation of Israel. Since the 1949 Geneva Conventions, mass evictions of an ethinc group is an illegal war crime. Knowing our own people’s history, how can you as a Jew advocate the forcible removal of people from their homes? Even you must realize that this is not an viable option in the 21st Century. Even the United States, and even the bulk of the American Jewish community has limits on what they will tolerate from Israel. If the Palestinians remain peaceful, and if Israel continues to pursue an expansionist policy toward the West Bank perpetuating the apartheid conditions there, and continues to evict Jerusalem Palestinians than I fear a great chilling of relations between Israel and the United States. All that you say about Israel being a democracy will ring hollow. It hasn’t rung hollow quite yet because the Palestinian side has always reverted to terrorism, but Palestinians pursing their agenda peacefully is the most powerful weapon that they have. Leaving the Settler movement unchecked at the same time is surely the best way to destroy the US-Israel relationship. </p>
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<p>I don’t support these short-sighted divestment campaigns or targeting the Israeli academic community, of all places, (though I do support boycotting products made in the West Bank settlements), but the solution is to pursue peace not to spew racist gibberish. It’s to learn about other peoples opinions, other narratives and support constructive people who are actually working toward a solution. It’s easy to blame, it’s hard to build.</p>
<p>Okay . . .okay, so we have some posters who have strong feelings about Israel. That’s cool, but the OP just wanted info about which campuses are filled with anti-Irsaeli faculty and student activists that might make some uncomfortable. I would add this: 1) just because you attend a school filled with Israel bashers doesn’t mean you will become one. If fact, you may find that, after four years, you become pretty good at smoking them out and bettering them in debate. 2) The world is filled with people that hate Jews and Israel (the nation and, soince 1948) the country - has been for a few thousand years, so you better get ready to deal with them. Some folks in Europe tried to ignore them in Europe sixty-five or seventy years ago and it didn’t work out so well.</p>
<p>What are you (OP), 16 or 17 years old? The world is filled with ugly, brutish people – it is time to grow up and get ready to rumble. The world will depend on your generation.</p>
<p>( add UC Berkeley and Colorado at Boulder)</p>
<p>No, the OP did not really want any information, and you can tell by the links the OP himself provided that he knew exactly where to get that information. </p>
<p>All 16 posts ever made by the OP are in this thread!</p>
<p>The OP is a ■■■■■ who wanted to stir up controversy by posting increasingly outrageous stuff. He sounds more like he’s gearing up for battle than someone looking for a college to attend so that he would feel comfortable. </p>
<p>I don’t think this thread belongs here, but it’s obviously not my call.</p>
<p>Right now, if we ignore Gaza for a moment (that’s a whole different discussion), there still is a viable two-state solution. </p>
<p>Oh yes israel gives up all land it won in a defensive war to the arab terrorists even the jewish holy sites. shows that terrorism does work doesnt it?</p>
<p>For 2500 years, this solution has been used against Jews in Palestine, Spain, Portugal, Russia, Germany and finally all over the Middle East after the creation of Israel. Since the 1949 Geneva Conventions, mass evictions of an ethinc group is an illegal war crime. Knowing our own people’s history, how can you as a Jew advocate the forcible removal of people from their homes? </p>
<p>Tell me then what other choice does israel have? it cant kill them, it cant integrate them and it cant let the arabs overpopulate israel so israel becomes arab again. population transfer is not immoral. turkey and greece did it. india and pakistan did it. when those countries did it the world community didnt complain. so why is it when israel does it to protect its sovereignty its racist?</p>
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<p>Israel “won” the people that live on that land too. You can’t have it both ways, either those people become part of one-state solution, or you give it back when they are no longer a threat. Also, while the 1967 war might have been defensive, building settlements on the occupied land is offensive. Conditions are now ripe for peace and are much less hostile than in 1967. As for holy places, Israel doesn’t give up the Jewish Quarter of the Old City including the Western Wall. It probably does give up the archeological digs going on in Silwan. </p>
<p>It doesn’t show that terrorism works, it shows that peace and negotiations work. It shows that Judaism values human life more than it values the holiest of land.</p>
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<p>It was racist in those other places too, and the world DID complain. That’s why forcible population transfer was included in the 1949 Geneva conventions. When Serbia tried it in Kosovo, they got bombed by NATO. Failure to redress the Armenian genocide is a big stumbling block keeping Turkey out of the European Union. In the 21st Century, these things are unacceptable by anybody.</p>
<p>You also don’t address Jewish terrorism. Why don’t you read the latest article:
<a href=“http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1129358.html[/url]”>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1129358.html</a></p>
<p>How do you find this acceptable?</p>
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If you want Israel to be a majority Jewish democratic state:
<p>I don’t see any other choices that are going to get it done.</p>
<p>You have to be kidding me to equate anything Israel does to the terrorism that Arabs have perpetrated across the globe. There will never be peace with the Palestinians unless they accept what Israel generously offers them, give up their right of return and accept Isreal as a Jewish state.</p>
<p>I read on a college reviews site that there are some anti-Israel feelings at Guilford College. </p>
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<p>Things that do NOT equal large amounts of anti-Israeli feelings on campus:
<p>Things that DO equal large amounts of anti-Israeli feelings on campus: