<p>did anyone see "true life' i'm a genius" that was on recently? that one "genius" got outright rejected as an early action applicant to stanford. i think it is a true testament to how stanford admits applicants with a propensity to become "real" people, not applicants with intelligence with absolutely no chance of succeeding in the real world</p>
<p>Dude, I met Myles at Stanford Summer College this last summer! He's a really cool guy, and I was totally surprised when I saw he was rejected EA. He's pretty much a pretty big celebrity and he even signed my summer college yearbook!</p>
<p>Engels, you sound truly arrogant. "it is a true testament to how stanford admits applicants with a propensity to become "real" people, not applicants with intelligence with absolutely no chance of succeeding in the real world"?</p>
<p>Um, Myles Jeffrey's been acting most of his life, with guest and lead roles in films and tv shows like ER, with several awards for his work. They neglected to mention this fact on True Life for some reason, but I think it shows how fully functional in the real world he already is. He probably didn't get in because he applied early decision.</p>
<p>And may I ask where you are going to college? What a bizarre and spiteful thing to say about someone you don't even know and whose transcript you've never seen.</p>
<p>scully, first of all, you're clearly not posting out of objectivity in your evaluation of the kid's credentials. it sounds ridiculous when you intertwine emotion with what is supposed to be a cogent argument. anyone who says "being a genius" must not be enough to get into stanford clearly has no grasp, in terms of maturity or otherwise, of what is actually required to gain admission to elite institutions. and i think it's fairly ironic that you said i'm arrogant because i have already been admitted to harvard</p>
<p>I'm clearly not posting out of objectivity? I don't even know this guy. When I saw that True Life I thought, ok, well this guy doesn't have any ECs so that's why he didn't get into Stanford, but then I looked, and he's been acting, the lead in films and tv shows, for years, besides other ECs. Just Google the guy. Last I checked, that was enough for Brooke Shields to get into Yale, Julia Stiles into Columbia, Natalie Portman into Harvard, etc.--and they didn't have his grades or test scores.</p>
<p>I never said "being a genius" is enough to get into anywhere--I know full well what it takes to get into top tier universities. I wasn't exactly using emotion--I was using facts, facts you were unaware of, to show that your statement that Myles Jeffrey wouldn't be prepared for the real world or whatever was incorrect--facts you're still ignoring now. I'd say the fact that you're diverting the argument belies your immaturity, despite your claim that you've gotten into Harvard. And emotion surely entered your initial argument, otherwise you wouldn't have posted such an asinine statement.</p>
<p>Another fault in your argument is that you claim that you're not arrogant because you've been admitted to Harvard. How are the two causally linked? Is the fact that you've been admitted to Harvard supposed to excuse your arrogance, obviate it, or what? That makes no sense. The tone you took in your OP was that of arrogance--"hmmph, who does this guy think he is, thinking that being a genius is enough to get someone into Stanford, he's clearly not up to the caliber of someone like me, someone who is worthy of such an institution." If you can't see that, I can't help you. In addition, you are obviously basing your definition of irony on that of Alanis Morrisette. Look it up next time.</p>
<p>Well, good luck at Harvard with your poor argumentation skills and subpar writing skills. It's quite clear that you are the one who has absolutely no idea of what it takes to succeed in the real world--wow, I'm still shaking my head at that comment. Myles doesn't even have to go to college if he doesn't want to because he already has a career--is that something you can say about yourself? I don't think so. He probably got denied early admission because he's a year or two younger than most applicants or because he screwed up his interview--but that's a benefit of the doubt you in your ivory tower would never give someone like him.</p>
<p>Oh, and one more thing--I love how you say you've been admitted to Harvard when you've only gotten a likely letter. Don't fudge when it's so easy to check--it only undermines your credibility.</p>
<p>"What a bizarre and spiteful thing to say about someone you don't even know and whose transcript you've never seen."</p>
<p>"It's quite clear that you are the one who has absolutely no idea of what it takes to succeed in the real world"</p>
<p>I sense a bit of hypocrisy.
As for the issue regarding my writing skills, this is a MESSAGE BOARD, grow up.
And as for the comment on irony, it was a joke. People from Harvard are typically regarded as being arrogant, and I was remarking on how appropriate it was for you to say that.</p>
<p>Hypocrisy? Please, tell me, I'd really like to know.</p>
<p>I don't really think about Harvard too much so I wasn't thinking about if they had an "arrogant" reputation or not. I have a good friend who went to Harvard and she's probably the coolest, most down-to-earth person I know, so...</p>
<p>Grow up? You were the one who brought up maturity and cogent argumentation. I simply say, practice what you preach.</p>
<p>I'm not trying to belabor an argument on the internet with a teenager--it's just stupid and the Special Olympics thing, you know, we're both retarded--I just can't stand kids who haven't even gone to college yet who make absurd pronouncements. It's great that you'll probably go to Harvard and everything, but please remember that where you went to school isn't the end-all-be-all of existence. It's not a guarantee of anything. I mean, I went to NYU for grad school in film but I'm not working in the field now. And loads of people who could have gotten into schools like Harvard don't even apply because they can't afford it. It's not exactly a level playing field.</p>
<p>Scully, you claim that you went to NYU for grad school, but you bicker more than my five year old cousin. You bash engels' poor argumentation skills, but your stupidity persistently shines through in your posts.</p>
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<p>Grade A, USDA approved irony. You accuse Engels of talking about someone who he doesn't even know, and, yet, your alibi for being an objective observer is this very stance that you heckled Engles for. Huh??</p>
<p> [quote=Scully] Engels, you sound truly arrogant. "it is a true testament to how stanford admits applicants with a propensity to become "real" people, not applicants with intelligence with absolutely no chance of succeeding in the real world"
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<p>I don't see the arrogance. Engels' statement is a fact. Stanford - or any top tier school for that matter - is not going to accept applicants who have no chance of succeeding regardless of how intelligent they are. This is by no means a jab at the kid on MTV; it is merely an observation. I suppose your rudimentary vocabulary has lead you to misuse the word "arrogance" - there was no evidence of "overbearing pride" within that statement.</p>
<p>I'm going to stay away from ripping apart your last paragraph: I don't like interrupting my evenings with arguments grossly infested with non sequitur remarks.</p>
<p>"Grade A, USDA approved irony. You accuse Engels of talking about someone who he doesn't even know, and, yet, your alibi for being an objective observer is this very stance that you heckled Engles for. Huh??"</p>
<p>Huh? is right. What the hell are you talking about? My point was that he was slamming this guy when he didn't even know the whole story about him. He was accusing me of not being objective--so I replied that I don't know this guy. Two entirely different things. One entirely made up and irrelevant point by you. Avant-garde, meet straw man.</p>
<p>As for engels' statement, you're missing the point of my OP to him--that he made this condescending post about this guy Myles, judging him with some pretty harsh words--which you twisted to fit your argument against me, btw--that were not fully informed. You may claim the heart of the statement is correct, but from my understanding Stanford is admitting people who will uphold the high standards of Stanford and round out the student body. I highly doubt any college is looking on the basis of "making it in the real world," something, btw, that neither you nor engels has any experience with in any event. I think that to make a statement like that shows arrogance, period. I mean, come off it--what college applicant is not going to make it in the real world or have no chance of succeeding? And what exactly does "making it" mean? The way it's been posed, it's a loaded comment. All I did was call him out on it.</p>
<p>As for your other ad hominems, well, I could be like the rest of you and post my scores and all that, but I won't. I'll leave your insults to show your character. Ripping apart my paragraph? Honey, you don't know what you're talking about. I mean, if you haven't heard the internet saying about winning an argument on the internet is like playing in the Special Olympics--you're still retarded, you really need to expand your social network.</p>
<p>"Arrogant (pronounced /ˈ?rəgənt/) is an adjective that may refer to having excessive pride in oneself. A person who is arrogant may exaggerate one's own worth or importance in an overbearing manner."</p>
<p>Um, yeah, that's exactly what engels did. And neither of you has yet addressed the reason I posted in the first place--to show that Myles Jeffrey had every reason to believe that he would be accepted to Stanford considering his accomplishments, and that he is already doing quite well in "the real world," whatever it is you consider that to be. You say that "this is not a jab at the kid on MTV," but engels' statement was, and was intended to be. I kept my vocabulary rudimentary enough for you to understand that, but somehow I don't think you'll get it.</p>
<p>I find this thread quite entertaining, if you ask me</p>
<p>Engels made a shortsighted comment and got called out on it--and props to scully for doing it. All of the other arguments are meaningless.</p>
<p>Is this what NYU graduates do? Participate in trivial arguments on an internet forum only to make themselves look like idiots? And here I thought an NYU degree was actually worth something...</p>
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<p>C'mon, honey, I know you're not the brightest bulb in the batch, but hopefully you're capable of understanding your own definition of the word "arrogance," yeah? Where in the OP's post does he "exaggerate [his] own worth or importance"? Where does he mention that he's better than Myles? Where does he claim that he himself will be the only person that will ever make it in the real world? </p>
<p>Arrogance. It's a three syllable word. Does your brain overheat that quickly?</p>
<p> [quote=Scully] Honey, you don't know what you're talking about. I mean, if you haven't heard the internet saying about winning an argument on the internet is like playing in the Special Olympics--you're still retarded, you really need to expand your social network.
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<p>That's actually kinda cute. You tell ME that arguing on the internet is "retarded," yet you continue to post. Aren't adults generally more mature than that? Don't you have better things to do with your time? I'm on CC to get information for college; you signed up to interact and instigate arguments with people half your age. You're telling ME that I need to expand my social network? Hah, please. </p>
<p>I would engage in a battle of wits with you, but, frankly, I refuse to duel someone who is unarmed.</p>
<p>Tone--it's something I guess someone as dense as you would never understand. I already explained to the OP how his comments came across--if you don't know how to read, that's not my fault.</p>
<p>As for the "brightest bulb in the bunch" comment--well, it's not Vanderbilt, but I did get into ED Georgetown School of Foreign Service undergrad. I'm sorry, but not everyone can graduate top 15% of their class--some of us actually graduate top 2% and get good scores on their SATs. Calling me stupid is not going to work, not coming from a smug chump like yourself.</p>
<p>I signed up for this forum because a quick Google search to see where Myles Jeffrey actually got accepted to school brought this thread up. I felt compelled to correct the OP's incorrect assertion. It's not to instigate arguments or play around with anyone, although it's sure passed the time amusingly on a day home sick.</p>
<p>"yet you continue to post. Aren't adults generally more mature than that? Don't you have better things to do with your time?...I would engage in a battle of wits with you, but, frankly, I refuse to duel someone who is unarmed."</p>
<p>Um, you're still posting despite objective observers coming in the thread and agreeing that I was right. What does that say about you? Both comments re better things to do with my time and battle of wits--typical internet argument failure admission. When you can't refute my initial argument, try to divert and turn it around. Battle of wits? What a cliche. If you had anything worthwhile to say you would have said it.</p>
<p>Keep it going, pseudo-"avant-garde." I clearly could not care less about what anyone thinks of me, least of all a teenager who claims to know it all, and yet knows little to nothing.</p>
<p>I don't know why you all are so eager to jump on Scully, the real culprit is the OP for the shortsighted post, I said it before. Everything else is really meaningless to argue about.</p>
<p>Thanks Murasaki. I think avant-garde is just being unduly argumentative because he started out calling me an idiot and can't back down now. I had no idea that responding to the OP's OP would engender such hatred when I did it, but whatever. </p>
<p>It's fun to wind someone up like that. I'm enjoying myself. It's kind of boring around my house today anyway. ;-)</p>
<p>Um, when did I claim to "know it all"? I guess Georgetown's rich tradition of honor and honesty was sacrificed when they let a word-twisting, devil like you through their gates, huh?</p>
<p>Your ability to logically interpret data bewilders me. No wonder Georgetown is ranked lower than Vanderbilt - letting illiterate people like you taint its standards. My, my. You claim that "objective observer*s*" say that you are right? Well, sorry to break it to you, bud, but I counted and Murasaki constitutes as "one" person; hence, the "s" at the end of "observers" is unnecessary. C'mon, honey, a third grader knows the ever so subtle difference between singular and plural. You trumpet your "good scores on the SATs", yet you're incapable of understanding basic grammar laws. Hm. Cheaters never prosper, but hey, whatever floats your boat.</p>
<p>You poor, pathetic soul. I pity you. But whatever helps you sleep at night, buddy. If you think ranting on an internet thread, boasting about "Top 2%," and reliving your probably made up "glory days" will get you out of that miserable blue collar job you're working, you're wrong. Do something productive with your time. I'd tell you to go find the cure for cancer or something monumental like that, but then again, I'm talking to a moron. If it's plausible for you, do something that will help the world. Why don't you shoot a documentary of your life, NYU film graduate, and send it to schools across the country so they can show young people who NOT to model themselves after? Since you're clearly incapable of expressing yourself articulately with words, I'll help you out with the title of your movie - "How To Be An Idiot: By A Top 2% Dummy."</p>
<p>May you always be remembered as the idiot who, at one point in his life, got accepted ED to Georgetown. If that's your biggest accomplishment, I really, really feel bad for you. </p>
<p>We are all very impressed, Scully.</p>
<p>I'll admit, the original post was guilty of some poor rhetoric that allowed for misinterpretation by individuals who suffer from delusions of grandeur; however, I agree with the proposition that this is hilarious, quite frankly, because it is. avant-garde, I think something that needs to be addressed is the question of what a grad-school student is doing anywhere near CC.</p>
<p>I think the question that needs to be addressed is why everyone gives a ****. Avant-garde, even though your stunning personality analysis (which is obviously 100% true based on the overwhelming evidence you present against someone you don't even know) has been posted, everyone needs to chill. Castigating someone on the internet doesn't make you any more mature/likely to succeed/whatever. Besides, your unnecessarily long posts don't really make you any better than what you criticize. THIS IS TRIVIAL.</p>