<p>There is no Yale class of '12, so i'll post my question here.
How good should one be in order to submit a music supplement (recordings)?
On the Yale webpage, it says that they discourage such submissions unless they stand out...
I do consider music an important part of my application...
but how good should one be to stand out?</p>
<p>Are you a state recognized award winner? Have you ever recorded with a label? Are you a soloist with an established orchestra or vocal group? Unless it's to this calibre, although very meaningful to you, it probably isn't meaningful to the Admissions office. Many viable applicants are accomplished musicians/vocalists/composers. Recordings/CDs are meant to be forwarded to the Music dept where someone might say:" Goodness, this person is fantastic! What can we do to nudge this person in?!"</p>
<p>That's the degree of seriousness your CD/Recording should be. If it's not that, then your passion for music will be duly noted as part of your overall application. Good luck</p>
<p>ok...guess not ^^;;
but then wouldn't everyone that good be applying as music majors?</p>
<p>My opinion only: yes, the ones whose tapes the music dept wants to listen to should be viable music majors. These are the folks that the dept might say "we want this one!"</p>
<p>The rest: the admissions office assumes for devoted musicians (non major) that if for instance, you've been playing piano since five years old, that it's your legitimate passion and accomplishment. They'll credit you that w/o listening to your tape. I don't have an idea but can you guess at what percent of applicants have some level of advanced music ability? Probably quite a lot. Heck, even I did (Clarinet for 13 years -- fairly advanced, state awards, etc -- but it was only one slice of my file. I wouldn't even dream of sending a tape in).</p>
<p>Pls don't take my opinion as the final word. I'd recommend you email the admissions office about your situation. Good luck to you.</p>
<p>at my piano school which is highly rigorious, kids who send in cds usually don't have to do it for a music major</p>
<p>One of asian male friends sent in cd and he went pre-med and he got accepted into stanford and cornell</p>
<p>One of my other asian friends wanted to sent a cd to stern, but stern wouldn't let her, but based on her accomplishments, she got in anyway</p>
<p>My asian friend got a full ride to penn state based on her piano, but she did music as a minor otherwise she wouldn't have gotten the scholarship.
Depends on the school.
Also, don't send a CD unless you're really really good and things to back it.<br>
I played at the white house, over 30 embasssies, Kennedy Center, Carnegie Hal, the Kennedy Center, Lincoln Center, the United Nations, the Pentagon and won first places twice in state competitions in Penn, Delaware, and Maryland and my teacher didn't think my piano was good enough to send.
Remember that quality is really important
Hope this helped!</p>
<p>I don't think Yale offers a performance major for undergrads anyway.</p>
<p>alright.
thx to you guys all for posting</p>
<p>Can I send in a piece of my artwork even though I'm not applying for an art major?</p>
<p>You can send in artwork, but same rules as for music supplements applies. Are you represented by a good gallery? Won national awards for your art? Illustrated a published book? If yes, send your art in regardless of major. Lots of people make art, but most of it isn't of the calibre you'd want to submit to Yale. You have undoubtedly mentioned art elsewhere in your app and it will be noted.</p>
<p>u dunt have to win awards etc, just be good!</p>
<p>^ Exactly what I was thinking. Just because you're not published or haven't any awards doesn't mean your art isn't good. Maybe it means you don't have the right connections, or maybe it means you're not cocky enough to join competitions in the first place. It certainly doesn't mean your art is of a lesser quality.</p>
<p>Yale doesn't offer a music performance major for undergrads (the School of Music is a graduate institution) and you don't have to plan to be a music major to send a CD. But sending a CD will not help your application unless your playing is conservatory quality or very close to it. Also, if you plan to send a CD, contact the Department of Music about requirements with respect to content and length.</p>
<p>While I hear everyone saying "oh if it does have some accolade behind it, dont send it". If it is 'good' - it probably wont hurt you, and might help jsut a tiny bit. And while good is subjective, I think what you should do is talk to your music teacher, let him or her evaluate it, and they can tell you if they think it is the type of thing that no one in your class can level with. Because the Yale music department people won't be impressed by it, but they will acknowledge that it is at least good, and them telling the admissions office that it is at least decent or good, gives you a minor, minor boost.</p>
<p>The point here is that the arts supplement is not intended to show your devotion or commitment to your art, but to demonstrate that your ability or achievement is at a level that might make you an asset to the school.</p>
<p>Re post # 17: No. If it is just "decent or good," it will not help your application one bit. It may even hurt it. </p>
<p>But if you're in doubt about whether to send a music CD, it is a good idea to discuss it with your private teacher. Let him/her know Yale's standards, and ask if he/she thinks you're in range.</p>
<p>diversity matters too! these things r subjective. i sent in paintings of thai temples and stuff, so its pretty different i guess</p>
<p>Here is how I approached this for my art supplement. I looked at it and thought about whether or not I would be willing to submit it to a top art school and have a reasonable chance of getting into one of those (Cooper Union, RISD, Art Institute of Chicago, etc.). Of course, art schools have more to evaluate because they have "home tests" or other pieces that they ask you to accomplish as a part of their application. For music, I'm not saying necessarily Julliard, but pretty close. If that's not the case, then no.</p>
<p>I say this because, and I speaking mostly from what I gathered from their instructions on the art supplement for the next portion, but it might apply to music as well, from what the supplement asks for (especially the portion that asks you to label which pieces were done from life), they are looking for potential. Do you have the potential to be a professional in whatever you are sending your supplement in for?</p>
<p>Of course, what you can do is to try and compare yourself to some of the top (tippy-top) musicians already at the school (who may or may not be majors in that subject). I think that would be easier for music (just look for youtube videos of the Yale Symphony Orchestra). Alicia Shvarts aside, I have had a hard time finding Yale undergraduate artwork.</p>
<p>In the end, it's a tough decision. Sometimes I regret it. Sometimes I don't. I guess I won't really know until Dec. 15th, ehn?</p>
<p>Well I currently go to an art and design school right now in New York City. I got accepted into schools like Parsons but choose not to go because of the expense and that I liked the program at my current school better. Since I've changed my mind about having a career in art, I'm transferring to a normal academic college, and then hopefully from there applying as a transfer to Yale. I just thought sending in a piece of my artwork (when I do end up applying) would show that even though I changed my mind career and major wise I still had a passion for art. </p>
<p>Others here have stated though that Yale only wants you to share items that would be a contribution to the school and I don't know how my artwork would do that if I'm not planning to major in art. But then again, others have stated that it doesn't matter. That's why I wasn't sure....</p>