<p>I don't think he was trying to imply Tufts is more prestigious than Northwestern, merely that it's more prestigious than SOME OTHER schools.</p>
<p>Also, I think Northwestern is more prestigious in many areas, such as math, chemistry and physics, Tufts is more prestigious in certain others, such as IR.</p>
<p>hey bball-</p>
<p>Northwestern- 1401 SAT, 31 ACT, 30% acceptance
Tufts- 1405 SAT, 30 ACT, 28% acceptance</p>
<p>@ least on the East coast, Tufts is widely considered more prestigious than Northwestern - more selective, better SAT scores (entering class/2010: 1433/1600 combined). Agreeing with Achilles, NU is more prestigious in some areas (mathematical sciences, journalism) and Tufts is more prestigious in others (pre-med/bio, IR/IS, humanities). Nortwestern may have better name recognition among layman, as it is a big sports school, but Tufts would have more recognition among members of the academic/global community. So, it evens out.</p>
<p>I forsee a lot of flaming soon.</p>
<p>I'm not trying to inflame anything, it's just i'm getting a 'tad tired of the Tufts bashing that goes on here, when out in the real world everyone knows and respects Tufts as an elite college. It's as if CC'ers are living in a different reality.</p>
<p>WorldbandDX,</p>
<p>Apparently you are the one that's "living in different reality" when it comes to how your school is compared to Northwestern. Your claim that Tufts is "widely considered more prestigious in the east coast" totally contradicts to the following stats: </p>
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<li><p><a href="http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/colleges.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/colleges.php</a><br>
Northwestern sent 22 students to Harvard law school for year 2005-06. Tufts? Only 9 even Tufts has the geographical advantage (Northwestern sends tons to UChicago and its own law school).</p></li>
<li><p>WSJ feeder school ranking: <a href="http://www.classroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.classroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf</a>
Even the WSJ is so blatantly biased to the schools in the east coast, Northwestern still ranks well above Tufts. The comment column says Northwestern is "feeding itself...". WSJ didn't even include Northwestern as one of the their top-5 MBA even though it should; if it did, Northwestern would have been ranked even higher. </p></li>
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<p>Northwestern is more prestigious in almost all, not just "some" areas. Please look up the NRC rankings yourself. <a href="http://www.stat.tamu.edu/%7Ejnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc41indiv.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc41indiv.html</a> Northwestern is ranked above Tufs in pretty much all areas in the NRC ranking, including those in biological sciences and humanities in which you claimed Tufts is more prestious. As far professional schools, Northwestern has WORLD-RENOWNED business school and top-20 law/med schools.</p>
<p>Regarding the SAT score, first of all, the 2010 stats hasn't been out for Northwestern yet. As for the 1433/1600, can you please show us the link to back it up? Is that for "admitted" or "enrolled"? Also SAT score is a valid comparison only for similar schools. For example, CalTech has higher SAT score than Harvard but it doesn't make it more selective. Tufts only offers liberal arts and engineering whereas Northwestern also has schools of journalism, music, education, and communication where students pursue film studies/performance arts/dance. The liberal arts/engineering schools at Northwestern always have higher SAT score than the other 4 schools (hence higher than the overall average you see from college guide) but they are equally selective because those 4 schools care a lot more about the related ECs/talents in those areas than SAT scores. </p>
<p>I think Tufts is a good schol. I am not here to bash, just to get the FACTS straighten out.</p>
<p>The overall opinion on CC of Tufts is largely negative, and i'm sick of it. Period.</p>
<p>It's only negative relative to schools that are truly more prestigious and/or provide stronger programs... and there are 20-25 of these schools. I really dont think CC dislikes Tufts in general, only relatively to a select few... which being a future Emory student I also must accept to a degree...but since this is only CC it's not hard to accept...</p>
<p>I had never heard of Tufts until CC...</p>
<p>Sam Lee
2 of the sources you quote are not based on current data</p>
<p>So...how bout them red sox?</p>
<p>haha guys I understand that it may be nice to find all of these sources and spend hours arguing but when you get down to it, it's always going to come back to the same thing. People are going to have different opinions, but why do we need to focus so much on what others think? It gets so tiring to see people spending so much time in this site asking questions such as "is school a more prestigious than school b"?....defending their own school as if there is some giant prestige war going on. As important as college prestige is, it's much more vital that you spend your 4 years enjoying yourself and taking advantage of the opportunities that are specific to your interests. And NO ONE other than you can fully predict that!</p>
<p>Remember that the point of CC is to provide information about the college admissions process...and yes part of this information may be the overall perception of a college's reputation, but would it be that hard to stop spending all of your time bashing each other's schools?</p>
<p>You can spend all the time you want comparing guides and taking one person's comment about your school's actual SAT average so seriously that you feel that they just made fun of your mom...but despite the crazy overachieving CC subculture you should all be damn proud of these schools you are arguing about! Why not let the glass be half full, for once? </p>
<p>Go outside, enjoy the nice weather, and relax.....</p>
<p>This is really a pathetic thread. Everyone has an opinion, everyone has different experiences, and everyone is justifed in expressing what they feel (without badgering others, of course). </p>
<p>I transferred into Tufts from a small liberal arts college in rural area. I'm a recent graduate of Tufts, employed at a law firm, looking forward to my first year of graduate school at Columbia University in the fall. Transferring to Tufts was one of the best life decisions I could've made at the time, and I was able to fully appreciate the academic and social benefits Tufts offered. </p>
<p>One thing I don't do is bash the college I transferred out of, mainly because I'm respectful of the fact that not everyone has the same experience everywhere. People transfer for any number of reasons, but the original poster seems to have the proverbial chip on his/her shoulder. Fine. You may not have been able to have positive experience at Tufts. Move on, get over it, and make the most of your current situation. </p>
<p>Heading out for some Creole food, drinking, and clubbing. Peace out, kids.</p>
<p>I agree with vanillasky & gojumbos - I much prefer threads where people are asking about quality of life, types of course, etc etc. I think i was just getting tired with all of the "which is better, which is worse" threads. I mean, we're arguing about small differences with two of the best schools in the US :) - </p>
<p>"you should all be damn proud of these schools you are arguing about" - Of course! And, whether it be Northwestern, Tufts, Emory etc. We should be proud, b/c they are all widely respected and prestigious in their own fields and have top-notch faculty/resources. </p>
<p>I know Tufts is a great school, and I'm really excited to be going there in the Fall - and, for my areas of interest, the school is one of the best. For others, Tufts isn't b/c they are not focused on their area(s) of study (like journalism). It's like going to MIT for linguistics or art history. It just wouldn't make sense. Anyway, onto other things, such as... </p>
<p>Why is it, that after paying absolutely no attention to it for years, America is suddenly obsessed with the World Cup? And, is nationalism in sports a good thing? (lol). And, does anyone in the world well, really care? </p>
<p>Hopes this calms everyone :)</p>
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<p>Noam Chomsky???!</p>
<p>^ Yeah, sorry on that one, MIT has one of the best linguistics programs in the country, lol.</p>
<p>Oops. Well - it was late lol. You're right - but you see my point. :)</p>
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1. <a href="http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/colleges.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/colleges.php</a>
Northwestern sent 22 students to Harvard law school for year 2005-06. Tufts? Only 9 even Tufts has the geographical advantage (Northwestern sends tons to UChicago and its own law school).
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<p>Tufts is not reknowned for its prelaw program and it has over 3 thousand students less than Northwestern, so it's no surprise that Northwestern has more students matriculating at Harvard Law. Why don't you look at the list for matriculation at Harvard MEDICAL school? I think you'll find that Tufts has more students despite it being only half the size has Northwestern.</p>
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The WSJ rankings are completely worthless due to the fact that the ONLY ranking criteria is to divide the number of students matriculating into several grad schools by the total number of applicants. Tufts does not have a law or business school while its medical school isn't very good, and none of its grad schools are used in the WSJ survey, so it will naturally rank low on the WSJ rankings.</p>
<p>If you look at the acceptance rate and schools matriculated for pre-medicine and pre-dental programs, Tufts would have a clear advantage over Northwestern. Northwestern's grad school acceptance and matriculation are not listed in the office of admissions website. Could you post the link to that info here?</p>
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Regarding the SAT score, first of all, the 2010 stats hasn't been out for Northwestern yet. As for the 1433/1600, can you please show us the link to back it up? Is that for "admitted" or "enrolled"?
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<p>Go on <a href="http://www.collegeboard.com%5B/url%5D">www.collegeboard.com</a> or search for Northwestern and Tufts on <a href="http://www.princetonreview.com%5B/url%5D">www.princetonreview.com</a>. It is clearly listed that the enrolled students for the Class of 2009 at Tufts have higher SAT average than Northwestern. </p>
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Also SAT score is a valid comparison only for similar schools. For example, CalTech has higher SAT score than Harvard but it doesn't make it more selective.
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Caltech has a higher SAT average than Harvard because the average SAT scores for math at most top colleges are higher than the average for english, and Caltech IS more selective than Harvard for any students who are serious about pursuing engineering.</p>
<p>Nobody is even arguing with you that Northwestern is overall a more prestigous college than Tufts, so I don't know why you continuously post here. But please dont use BS statistics that are taken out of context while refuting clear and obvious evidence that Tufts has a higher SAT score average than Northwestern to "prove" your point.</p>
<p>Nice explanation. :)</p>
<p>Only thing -- in my personal experience, aside from the CC forums, I've never been told by anyone that NU is more prestigious than Tufts; but really, it comes down to a matter of taste. Both are excellent.</p>
<p>True. Tufts and Northwestern are both excellent schools. However, Tufts is better known in the Northeast and Northwestern is better known in the Midwest and the West. Why? People west of Pennsylvania have never heard of Tufts and people east of Ohio are unlikely to have heard of Northwestern. Each school is better known within its region.</p>
<p>Emory is definitely not a regional school. </p>
<p>Tufts is shadowed by many other schools in the vicinity that have better name recognition, and it does not have as many (recognized or not) grad programs.</p>