<p>First of all, I’m an education major, and everything you’re saying about teachers is really insulting. I try not to take stuff like that personally, but I do. And so do a lot of others. You are describing ineffective teachers. Have you ever stopped to think that not every teacher is in it for the money, or the “summers off”? A vast majority of teachers are there because they love teaching and they love what they do. My parents abhor the fact that I’m going to become a teacher because they think I won’t be able to survive on the salary. They want me to go to med school. I could go to med school – I have the intelligence, the GPA, the grades, the strong math/science classes, etc. But I’m not going to. I’d rather become a teacher and make a fraction of what doctors make, because teaching is my passion, and I cannot imagine doing anything else with my life. I’m doing my observations now, and every day I see my sponsor teacher get treated like crap by parents who do not understand that their kid failed their algebra test because the kid doesn’t pay attention in class. It’s obviously the teacher’s fault their kid failed. But hey, the 90% of kids that got a 90% or better means nothing, right? I’m constantly staying after school every day with this teacher, sometimes until 4 or 5 PM, doing extra help, working with struggling students, rewriting ineffective lesson plans, planning ahead for the next school day, grading quizzes and tests, grading homework, inputting grades, making phone calls, going to conferences, etc. And on top of this, the teacher is in school getting his PhD, and I have my college classes, so we both then have to go home and do our homework. It’s stressful and fast-paced and it’s honestly the hardest thing I’ve ever done and I’m not even teaching yet.</p>
<p>Now tell me I’m lazy and only in it for the “perks”.</p>
<p>Of course there are teachers wow really want to teach I never said that ALL teachers are like that. Its just like you can’t say that all teachers actually want to teach. The problem is that there are teachers who are lazy and are in it for the perks. They just have to be identified and taken out of the system.</p>
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<p>Grades sometimes mean nothing as you see from the last quote</p>
<p>wow columbia, I sure hope that people as spoiled as you are rare. You are in constant denial that you’re wrong in many of your points, you are disrespectful, and you twist the truth just so you can believe what’s more convenient for you. god help you</p>
<p>For your parents’ sake I hope you can find the moral fiber and transfer to a cheaper school so your siblings can have the chance to go to college.</p>
<p>Columbia:
I dont intend using the local fire service and instead use a private contractor and I think I should get a tax break for that… Right?
I dont intend using local Police and may be hire private security, so tax credit for that as well?
I use toll road mostly, so I should get tax credit for that? </p>
<p>Want me to go on???</p>
<p>You remind me of a friend of mine who lives in Socal who used to complain about why we pay so much to maintain public services and why he should pay for so many of those services that he doesnt use. And this guy had a multi million dollar home in the hills and when there was a fire in this area a few years back and when it was close to his house, he was complaining why they are not attending to his area first and how they should invest more money on these services - from evenone else’s tax money!!</p>
<p>^ AAhhh no. I think you would be surprised that there are people out there who agree that if you send your child to a private school, a tax reduction would be nice. Don’t give us that crap about being rich and that this will only benefit them. And AGAIN the police/fire department/transportation system is completely different.</p>
<p>Tell me why are they different? There are a lot of public services and you should be able to opt out of anything that you dont like - right? You dont like public school and want to opt out and want some tax break and I should be able to opt out of a public service of my choice - roads, parks, street lights, whatever. </p>
<p>Nice try to make us live in a banana republic!!</p>
<p>To answer your question, you can’t compare safety to education. You might have a private fire department or whatever, but are they going to reach you when you’re on the other side of town? Maybe yes maybe no I will not risk it. I might use those roads, those buses, and I will probably use the fire department if my house burns down. I will not use the public schools if my kids don’t attend one. If I own a private security team, the cops will help also me too. I’ll just be safer than other people.</p>
<p>I can’t believe there are seriously people in this thread that people with high income levels are somehow selfish and earned their profits “unfairly”. It’s really sad that it’s so difficult for so many Americans to grasp the fact that some people play their cards right, work hard, and reap the benefits.</p>
<p>Anyways, I can relate to the OP. My mother came from a small island in the Caribbean called St. Lucia, came to America, put herself through college and was made it onto the Dean’s List and “Who’s Who In American Colleges”. She’s a sucessful Nurse and Director of a center of lucrative dialysis company. Unfortunately, my parents divorced a few years ago and money is tight. One thing FAFSA needs to understand is the factors that come in to play around your income, not just the numbers themselves. My mother is single and trying to put 2 kids through college, yet doesn’t receive a penny from the government. It’s almost as if the government punishes people for working hard and doing what they’re supposed to do.</p>
<p>^^^
my family earns way below 100k/year, and I didn’t get a cent from FAFSA. But I’m not complaining; I’ve found my niche at my state school, I’m graduating debt free, and I hope to get a PhD in the future. what people need to understand is that FAFSA is a gift from the government. It helps Americans afford college in a time when college tuition is rising way faster than inflation. In your case, you might feel robbed of many benefits. But the important thing is not everything is all good. Some people get the short end. That’s just a fundamental concept in life you have to understand</p>
<p>How does the government bail out college student debt? You can’t even file bankruptcy for student loan debt–that follows you around until you pay it off or drop dead.</p>
<p>The average teacher’s pay in NYC is not $100,000. That is around the maximum pay, for teachers with years of experience and education. Starting salary is around $50k, average around $60k. Living in NYC is extremely expensive. A very modest two bedroom apartment can cost you $800,000 (more or less, of course, depending on your neighborhood). So that salary is not great considering you need a masters degree.</p>
<p>I don’t understand how people like Columbia don’t see that an educated society benefits everyone. Yes, people who work hard should be rewarded. But that doesn’t mean they don’t have to contribute to the society that provided the framework for their success.</p>
<p>“I don’t understand how people like Columbia don’t see that an educated society benefits everyone. Yes, people who work hard should be rewarded. But that doesn’t mean they don’t have to contribute to the society that provided the framework for their success.” </p>
<p>Redpoint, you’re exactly right. And Columbia never denied any of this. No one on this thread has. All Columbia and I were saying was how we are in favor of a tax deduction (no large sum of money, but a reasonable deduction) for private school tuition payers. No one ever said they did not want to give a dime to the public school system to educate the youth of this country. All we were saying was that for private school tuition payers, along with their regular taxes (which help the public school system) they also should be eligible for a tax deduction. What is so wrong about that? I still fail to see why you find that wrong? </p>
<p>And, as for you googler, well, redpoint answered your original question…9 pages of thread later But I hope it helped:)</p>
<p>All private schools do is sequester the best teachers and students from the general population with the price tag being the biggest hurdle for entry (speaking from my own experience at the best and one of the most expensive private schools). There is no reason for the government to subsidize that with a tax deduction.</p>
<p>It honestly would make more sense to me if you just thought that you shouldn’t have to give a dime to support public schools if you’re not in them than what you’re actually suggesting. Where do you suggest the money for a private school deduction come from? It would most likely come from the education budget which means all you would do is take money from the poor public school kids and give it to the rich families paying for their kids to go to private school. I guess you could argue it comes from some other government service, but still, it doesn’t make sense to reward people for being able to afford private school and choosing to spend their money that way when there is a public school system they are eligible for. The only way it makes sense to me is because you don’t think you should have to give the poor people and/or the government money.</p>
<p>Given you’re logic as I understand it, you might as well also ask for a tax deduction for not using welfare or medicaid which in my mind would actually make MORE sense than a private school deduction since at least if you have money you’re not eligible for those benefits; you can go to public school, whose purpose is to educate american youth, not just YOU, no matter how much money you make and therefore there is zero reason to receive a deduction for not using it.</p>
if they ask you have to put it down.</p>