<p>"sorry but isnt only 17 kids a small town crappy high school?"
in response to trader,</p>
<p>No, I go to a magnet school where 1400 is the average SAT. However, we participate in ECs and sports through a local high school.</p>
<p>i hope you don't come off as this arrogant in your applications</p>
<p>I believe my school is very similiar to yours. I go to a competitive high school in Cincinnati with 182 kids in my class. The top 10% goes from 4.012-4.48 (after Jr. year). You get .06 for each AP. A lot of my friends, even though they have taken 7-8 APs, are outside the top 10% because they have gotten a few Bs. </p>
<p>But you (nor would they) would not be validictorian in some Po-dunk town. You would have not gotten the same oppurtunities, AP courses, or your medical expierence. </p>
<p>Please be quiet, you are sounding arrogant and ignorant.</p>
<p>Arrogant huh? Because my school is better then many other schools in this country?</p>
<p>No, i think its rediculous that BECAUSE my school is good, that i get limited from opportunities.</p>
<p>How are you limited in opportunities? You limited yourself by allowing 10% of your school to do better than you. How can you say that you are treated unfair when you had a chance that 30% of schools do not even have at all? Stop feeling sorry for yourself and do something productive.</p>
<p>No, i think its rediculous that BECAUSE my school is good, that i get limited from opportunities.
So you get opportunities that other people do not get and you feel that your are being punished.</p>
<p>you make it sound so easy. Every students obviously has dreamt of being number 1 valedictorian in their class. You think i "allowed 10 percent" of my class to do better then me. Are you number 1 in your class? Chances are you arent, so why did you allow someone to be better then you?</p>
<p>Im not feeling sorry for myself, its common sense that class ranking varies from school to school, so for it to be a requirement to apply to a certain program is rediculous.</p>
<p>everyone at your school has the same chance as you, and you are letting kids pass you. </p>
<p>While they won't hold it against you if you aren't in the top ten percent of your magnet school, you wouldn't have this problem if you had risen to the top among the competition, to be #1</p>
<p>But onna side note, apply for the accelerate program anyway. Lots of people get into honors programs when they don't make the cutoff, and if you are as good as you say you are, they shouldn't be too reluctant to accept you.</p>
<p>class rank is pointless, he is right. I know for a fact that if I went to 30% of the schools on long island i would be #1 or at least in the top 5, however at my school, I have taken 9 APs + 1 IB and have not received a grade below an A since freshman year and yet I am still ranked 38th of my class of 449 (just barely top 10%). If we use SAT scores as a standard measure, I know that the top few kids at most schools get around 1200-1300, while my schools valedictorian got 1570 Math + CR and 800 Writing SATII. I have a 1500 M+CR and #41 has a 1580. You dont get that at small town crap public schools where the valedictorian got a 1050. Class rank is the worst thing ever invented</p>
<p>thank you. These posters feel like its easy to be top 10%. Welcome to the real world, wanting something is not enough anymore.</p>
<p>SAT: some schools better prepare students, some students have more money to pay for prep courses etc. again...what matt said about "Its nice to know that you are for the further economical seperation in the united states."</p>
<p>and the GPA thing matt explained too.</p>
<p>they need to set rank. obviosuly if all the gpas are high u have inflation. also the gpa distribution would correlate with rank. where you fall on that distribution would technically be ranking</p>
<p>lol well at my school, if you have the same gpa as someone else, it goes alphabetically. It's alot of fun, really it is.</p>
<p>ya but if its a standardized rank its fine, its the varying ranks of schools that hurts people like myself.</p>
<p>ouch armo, i feel ur pain man.</p>
<p>people have had different classes and different experiences offered to them. obviously your school taught you well and you have lots and lots of knowledge in hards subject areas. a small school doesnt have enough students or staff to offer those extremely hard classes. therefore when college does come you will have an advantage. its sort of like affirmative action. lets give the little guys who did do well in the classes they had a shot at some hard classes and see how they do. they have not had as much experience or the blessing to go to a highly "developed" school. if all of the students who went to small schools were put into your school at the very beginning (preschool or kindergarten), im sure many of them could beat you anyways.</p>
<p>in my school I have the 4th highest SAT score, yet I am ranked 38th, mostly due to my school's terrible grading system (honors weighted same as AP, IB SL same as AP and HL, basically everything is weighted the same)
and since I am not in IB due to scheduling conflicts with another program, I have less weighted classes because classes such as TOK arent offered to me and I must take an unweighted social studies class whereas the IB kids dont have to take any unweighted classes besides health. Therefore IB kids have higher ranks and are not necessarily better in school.</p>
<p>oh and armo that really does suck. why don't they just carry it out to some like 3rd or 4th decimal? i can only imagine the parental complaints abc order gets</p>
<p>My school stopped ranking because by taking AP classes or even harder Princeton University classes (there is such an option in my school) it lowers your GPA. Kind of ironic.</p>
<p>ur missing my point...none of this makes the fact that im not allowed to apply to a program that only allows students in the top 10% to apply justifiable. Its wrong, if these kids dont have the preparation for such a program, thats too bad. Its a cut-throat world, how can they handle being pushed into college work when they have had cake courses in HS. These restrictions are rediculous!</p>
<p>exactly doogie, its a cutthroat world! the 10% were better than you and its too bad you cant make it in. you cant handle your courseload, maybe you should have taken an easier load.</p>
<p>yea it is dumb, there shouldnt be any ranking requirements- i wasnt in the top 10% until after junior year- went from 87th to 64th to 38th. so i could have been in your situation</p>
<p>you can apply</p>
<p>if you go to a magnet school, they will make exceptions.</p>
<p>they aren't going to punish you</p>