<p>Hello Members of CC forum!
I hardly post here but do spend a great deal of time reading the various topics.
Anyway I just want to get some input as two which of the two you guys would recommand. I plan to apply to the Liberal Arts/Science Department to major in Pre-Med(though its more of a pre-outlined schedule than an actuallt major). These two are my "dream school" and obviously only one of those am I able to apply ED for. Now I already requested applications for both schools as the Deadline is I believe november 1. So I know I need to get a rapid move on with these applications so I need some help to which I Should apply to.
Just a brief High school record.</p>
<p>GPA 4.5 weighted ( school only does weighted)
no class rank (school doesnt do it)
SAT Score: 1900 ( plan to take it a final time in october)
SAT II: Bio: 680 Math2c: 640 US:600
Worthwhile classes this year: Ap bio, pysc, calculus, and Eco/gov
E.C.
-80 hours of volunteer work at local hospital
-Two years of Cross country and Three years of winter/spring track
-NHS
-Various clubs- Math Team, amnesty and a few others
Ethnicity: South Asian
-now of course most of you will say that I don't even qualify, but I am going to apply ED to one of them just because they are my top reach. now if I get declined, which I positively think I do, there is a state school, Suny Binghamton that does Early action which my Guidance Counsler thinks is Ideal for me. Suny is more cheaper and also has the pre-med program as well.
-I would just like to have an honest(in most cases a cude/blunt answer) evalutaion. Please feel free to criticise or leave any feedback. This is more of an act of desperation to see if i have any potential at all in going to a prestigous school than anything else (even though I know it shouldn't be)</p>
<p>i think you could get into nyu early. Just so everyone knows, i go to the same school, and the 4.5 gpa is out of 5. UW, when recalculated to 4 scale which is what colleges do, its 3.55/4.00 UW</p>
<p>nyu is really up in the air......mybest freind had her heart set on it..her older sister went there and graduated and did great. My best freind was extreemly solid tester and she was 6th in her class at the second best school in illinois. she was wayyy more involved then u from what i can see...not saying that ur not..but she was wonder woman. She didnt get in and ended up at UCLA which she loves. Also, beware of how long ur essay is, cuz when they sent her back her application that they recieved, it was cut off at the 500th word. yikes...taht explains y she didnt get it...they didnt have the last 24 wrods of her essay. good luck.</p>
<p>The college of agriculture at Cornell gives a discount to NYS residents. You could satisfy premed requirements in that college and save money. I don't know if med schools would frown on the ag school background...they shouldn't. The ag school might have slightly lower admissions requirements...I am not sure. </p>
<p>I would prefer Cornell over NYU. I don't care for the urban setting. I like the pastoral scenery.</p>
<p>Cornell is a much better school overall than NYU but neither of those schools shine in your probable major...cornell = engineering and NYU = arts and business</p>
<p>Pre-med isn't actually a major anywhere. It is a support service. Cornell has good pre-med advising and support. NYU probably does too. Biology is pretty strong at Cornell.</p>
<p>cornell is fantastic for pre-med. The biology programs are huge. Cornell also has incredible placement rates into med school ... the acceptance rate for students with at least a 3.4 gpa is 90%.</p>
<p>Cornell is not much better than NYU, it may be a bit more prestigious but that's offset by NYU being in New York City while Cornell is on blighted upstate NY. Take NYU if you have a choice.</p>
<p>it's a little more than a 'bit more prestigious.' US news ranks Cornell in the top 15 (i think 13 to be exact) while NYU is around 35 or 40. There's alot of schools in between the two. Secondly, students who attend Cornell obviously know it's not in the middle of a big city. Duh. It's a personal choice, but you wont be at a disadvantage either way. Cornell's med school is located in NYC anyways.</p>
<p>I've read on CC that one needs very high grades to get into med school.</p>
<p>If you do not appear to be near the top of the incoming class at your chosen college, based on available stats/grades, etc., what makes you think you will be able to perform at a level there that will enable you to meet your ultimate objective?</p>
<p>I attended Cornell in the dark ages, 400+ million years ago. FWIW, at that time the intro bio and chemistry classes were notoriously difficult, in grading policies at least. Rumor being specifically to weed out pre-meds.The competition was intense. Many people chose other paths along the way, due to insufficient grades.</p>
<p>Consider going someplace where you are likely to succeed.</p>
<p>I can't say how this affects OP, or that you can't succeed there, I'm just suggesting one consider chances for personal success there in addition to the prestige of the school.</p>
<p>I agree that Cornell is more than "a bit more prestigious" ... NYU has a lot riding on its location. If Cornell were in NYC it would trump NYU as much as Columbia does.</p>
<p>I don't see what's so distinctive about Cornell, the education is very good, just like at hundreds of other schools, it has a name on the northeast but it hardly registers elsewhere, and it is in the worst location possible. NYC and the quality of artists at Tisch alone makes NYU more appealing.</p>
<p>it is not in the worst location possible. For somebody who cares more about education rather than "what can i do if i dont want to be with my school" Cornell is perfect. And the education is not "just like at hundreds of other schools" ... i transfered to Cornell from a US-News top-50 school and they're nothing alike. Cornell is worlds better, is so much more intense, and has a far superior network of job placement and alumni. How can you not say cornell is distinctive? Seven undergraduate colleges ranging from Engineering to Human Ecology to Hotel Administration to Industrial and Labor Relations plus the typical Arts and Sciences, Architecture and art, and the ag school with it's top-rated business program. And it has a world renown name, not just in the northeast. 250,000 alumni all over the world are willing to help me when i graduate, i've already got an internship for this winter break with a Cornell alum. Plus, it's not like Cornell students never hear or speak of new york city. There's dozens of Cornell programs in NYC, ranging from internships, externships, to whole semesters and years in NYC.</p>
<p>dwincho: try taking classes at the two schools, and I think you will see the difference. You would have to work much harder at Cornell, and likely you would learn much more...</p>
<p>well, the weather is something that people always seem to assume is horrible. Compared to Southern California, yes, Ithaca's weather is horrible. But, compared to cities like Boston and New York, it really isn't much different. I believe somebody on another thread posted weather statistics on how Boston is on average only about 5 degrees warmer than Ithaca. Many students complained that it was rainy for much of October ... well, guess was, it was the same deal in Boston, NYC, and Providence where i did a bike race. Even my friends at NYU were complaining. </p>
<p>So yeah, the weather can get pretty nasty, but it's no outlier on the east coast. If there's a big storm over ithaca, more likely than not, it'll be over NYC a few hours later.</p>
<p>im happy to report that my buddy tangents here got into SUNY Geneseo. Now hopefully his mom wont succesfullly convince him to go to SUNY Binghampton instead.</p>