<p>Hello, fellow CCers! I have a specific question about NAIA DII basketball programs. I don't know that much about recruiting, and I would love some advice from someone with a clue!</p>
<p>How hard is it to get recruited by these caliber schools?I've been contacted by one to play basketball, and I don't plan on accepting their offer. I was wondering if this has any real merit, then I could play at a very nice school, such as an Ivy League or school with similar acedemic excellence. I have some specific schools in mind and would love to play for them. Please get back to me because I was wondering if this would a boon to my application process; I'm in the dark here and am seeking salubrious advice! Thank you so much! :)</p>
<p>Just for good measure, here are some stats:</p>
<p>--UW GPA: 3.99 (1 B in high school career/ am sophomore)
--SAT: Have not taken yet (improved 100 pts. in one section from 2 practice tests though)
--will have 3 years Student government
--11/14 APs offered at school by graduation
--Around 20 inventions (not patented/marketed yet) + over 350 original/future car designs (possible hook)
--science olympiad awards, spanish comps, gold key winner, published poem, some good debate places</p>
<p>B-Ball Accomplishments:</p>
<p>--Consecutive MVP + Captain on basketball team (school & Church league)
--slasher/driving ability is very good
--love to pass + play hard defense
--14 ppg
--4 apg
--13 rpg
--4 spg
--2.5 TO pg (had one team where I had ball in hands for like 75% of games; team was pretty bad, leading to me playing 1 vs 5...ugh!)
--2 bpg
--can play heavy minutes + all positions (have post up game)
--5'11''; 160 lbs. (I know, small) + have gotten rim since 5'7'' 8th grader (can dunk occasionally)</p>
<p>How hard is it to get recruited by a NAIA DII school? Is is hard, or barely above high school varsity? How big a jump is it between this and NCAA DI or DIII even? Any advice would be appreciated! :)</p>
<p>Basketball is a headcount sport, so if a DI or DII offers you, it is a full ride. DIII schools don’t have that restriction. But, they can’t offer athletic scholarships per se, so keep those grades high so they can tip you to admissions for acceptance and academic money.</p>
<p>Just because it is is a headcount sport, does not mean it is a full ride, though. My daughter is a gymnast at a DI school. Gymnastics is also a “headcount” sport. Her school is fully funded…12 girls on full scholarships. If a school only has enough money for 6 full rides, they can split it 12 ways. Only 12 people on scholarship. My son plays soccer; DI’s can have 9.9 scholarships and split it up as many ways as they want.</p>
<p>So, if I was contacted to play at a NAIA DII school, how good of a shot do I have for some Ivies, MIT, JHU-caliber schools? Is there a big talent gap between all of these programs? </p>
<p>Sorry, I’m in the dark here (my research has gotten me nowhere ), and I’m looking for an opportunity to play bball at a high level while going to a great biomedical engineering program. Thanks!</p>
<p>There is really only one way to find out–call the coaches directly, send them game tapes and (if at all possible) arrange to play at an exposure camp in July for high academic achievers. Haven’t been there, but I’ve heard that the Hoop Mountain camp July 10-12 at Brandeis is good.</p>
<p>Would it hurt that I attend one of those camps next year; this year I can’t fit it into my schedule this summer! :(</p>
<p>I really would like to play for Brown, Yale, UPenn, Harvard, JHU, or MIT. Will most of these tems be filled out by the time I can attend one of these showcases? If somebody has experience, please share it! Thanks in advance :)</p>
<p>I suggest reading the bb player profiles on the athletic sites of HYPB & MIT. (For instance Harvard’s is gocrimson.com, Brown’s is brownbears.com, etc.) Look carefully at the size and experience listed and see if yours compares. Talk to local coaches to find out the details of anyone from the area who made it to the Ivies to play. </p>
<p>The level of bb is really quite high at Ivies, and it seems you would need some regional if not national exposure through camps and tournaments to gain coaches’ attention.</p>
<p>“Will most of these tems be filled out by the time I can attend one of these showcases?”</p>
<p>I see you are a sophomore. While it would probably be better to get some exposure by spring of your junior year, the summer after that year is the crucial time. My S, who pllays at a school that is equivalent to MIT and JHU, did not receive his first letter until the summer after his junior year, even though the Hoop Mountain and Hoop Group high academic camps had not yet been established.</p>
<p>Yes, they recruit, but they most do not fill their classes until sometime in the senior year in high school. I personally know four boys who did not commit DI until June of their senior years or later (one Patriot League, two A10, and one Metro Atlantic). With the high academic, nonscholarship schools (both DI and DIII), however, there is considerable pressure to commit ED. Even those, however, often take boys later in the year.</p>
<p>I’ve checked out a few of those websites in the past few months, and I don’t compare exactly to the stars on the teams. For example, some of those guys (like a Brown player) turned down better D1 scholarships because he wanted the great education, but I’m pretty sure that he was the Arizona BBall Player of the Year. Thses guys win state titles, but my school does not have the teams to go deep enough into tourneys. </p>
<p>We are always undersized and outmuscled in contests compared to other schools in the area (one is a top 15 program in nation w/ several guys playing D1 ball next year. One thing does help: I’ve looked at some rosters, and when I’ll be a freshman, I would have a ‘niche’ to fill (all teams have 6’0"/160 lb. guys it seems). </p>
<p>What about DIII, compared to D1, how hard is it to be recruited? If you make all-state, is that good enough (better/worse)? Thanks for the great info everybody! :)</p>
<p>Stats are not what counts, Coaches assess players by watching them play, in person if possible, on tape if necessary.</p>
<p>The quality of players at DIII schools varies widely. Among the most highly selective schools, Amherst and WashU are at one end of the spectrum (just barely below Ivy), while the quality of play at Swarthmore and Macalester is much lower. In addition, with few exceptions, DIII recruiting is very regional. So if you are interested in a school outside of your region and can’t get to a nearby camp, send a tape (8-10 minute game tape, NOT highlights).</p>
<p>Yeah, I know that sending in GAME tape is important, so I have to do that next year (have no footage right now, unless I send in playground ball games :P). I know that stats are not everything, but they do help IMHO. I mean you can be very talented in practice and not show up in games at crucial moments, thus you won’t impress on paper or in the real game </p>
<p>I’ll try to get watched in person, but you can contact coaches to watch you, right? Also, what if the conference you play in is fairly weak (except for one school that’s become a feeder school), will this count against you? Do you have to perform “extra special” on that day or can you just play your typical game? I know that you should make a good impression, but will weaker opponets make it look like your an average player w/ inflated stats or a legit player? Thanks everyone! :)</p>
<p>I forgot one important point about the drill. If you are really interested in a school, particularly a DIII school, call the coach just before sending the tape. In addition, you should include a schedule of places you are going to play. Include local church leagues; you never know where and when a coach will be able to see you.</p>
<p>If you do see a recruiter in the stands, I think its important to try and relax and play your regular game; if you try and do too much, you will probably do worse. With respect to the strength of the competition, the coach is going to see what he is going to see. He can probably make some evaluation of your skills, but might well want to see you in a camp setting before making any firm offers (which, except for absolute studs, would probably not come until your senior year in any event).</p>
<p>Thanks EMM1 for clearing up the ‘drill’ for sending in the game tape, I’ll try to get a trustworthy person to prodce a quality product, I myself am not at the best when it comes to cameras (I do know how to operate one). Don’t want to send in shoddy work for a ''once-in-a lifetime opportunity like this! :)</p>
<p>My game isn’t overly complex, I just wonder if some of my competition (and teammates) are really lacking skills then it makes me look like somebody trying to pump stats by not striving to play for an elite AAU team or something. </p>
<p>My church has a big (our only) tourney in Atlanta once a year, can I convince them to watch me there? Is this probably the best place to get gametape because they can breakdown how I played after watching me live? I would like to play AAU, but right now my life is too hectic to make that time commitment, could this hurt my chances? </p>
<p>Another problem: my position. I’ve played center for the last three years becaus of an actual post-up game and rebounding skills. This would certainly hurt my chances because I’ve never heard of a 6’0" tall center in college. </p>
<p>I’m a good ballhandler/playmaker & have a pretty nice mid-range game, but I don’t have good 3 ball numbers. My church coach doesn’t let me not play center for anthing because we have only 1 other “blue collar” or dirtywork player besides me (not to brag, but all three of us know I’m better). At school, I’ll most likely stop playing center and change to SF/PG (interesting combo, I know). How will this hurt?</p>
<p>Again, thanks to everyone helping me out here; I really appreciate this help! :)</p>
<p>PS: RIP Michael Jackson, a truly riveting performer who had a rough life. :(</p>
<p>“My church has a big (our only) tourney in Atlanta once a year, can I convince them to watch me there? Is this probably the best place to get gametape because they can breakdown how I played after watching me live?”</p>
<p>All you can do is let them know you are going to be there; after that, it is up to them. If you have any good tape (good in the sense of showcasing your skills), I would try and send it to them before the tournament. The best academic DIII school that I can think of in the South (and thus most likely to come) would be Washington and Lee.</p>
<p>Playing out of position might be a problem. I don’t know where you live, but is it possible to get to ANY camps in July (the open period) where people might see you playing guard? Or at some other time, when only DII and DIII schools are allowed to see you? You might at least get some sense of where you stand in the basketball hierarchy, even if most of the schools are not as selective academically as those that you are aiming for.</p>
), and I’m looking for an opportunity to play bball at a high level while going to a great biomedical engineering program. Thanks!</p>