<p>I’m not bashing Cornell. Just pointing out a trend where people do not associate hotel school, agriculture, etc. with “Ivy League.” I did say at the end that I found this trend very unfortunate.</p>
<p>^I’m definitely not going to bash Cornell for obvious reasons, but he’s right- a not-insubstantial minority in NY, for instance, refer to Cornell as “SUNY-Ithaca”</p>
<p>Well, those people are only as important as you let them be. I myself couldn’t care less what “people in NY” think.</p>
<p>But didn’t you know NY is the only state that matters?</p>
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<p>ROFLMAO – somehow I knew your link was going to be to that before I even opened it!!!</p>
<p>Lol, I grew up on the east coast so I totally get the sentiment! But it’s just as provincial as anywhere else.</p>
<p>What!? NY is FAR more provincial than all those other lowly “flyover” states! You can’t beat the Empire State! Excelsior!</p>
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<p>YES!! we’re the most provincial!!!</p>
<p>(Dictionaries, we don’t need no stinkin’ dictionaries!!)</p>
<p>its just splitting hairs. Both are top, top schools. Ivy League was for certain schools to compete in sports in a geographic region, Northeast. So that designation can only be applied to schools in the NE. The rest of the country has schools as good as, if not better, than some of those schools. But not every school can be in the NE.
Given that the academics are on par, they both attract the brightest and the best, it all depends on where you feel the “fit” is the best. And by you, I mean the student, as its really their decision in the end. Fit can mean so many things. Put the US News rankings where they belong, good bathroom reading. But don’t put too much into those numbers.
Ithaca is in the middle of nowhere, but a nice college town. Both can have terrible winters. Both are very difficult academically as classes are graded on a curve and students compete for those good grades. So lots of library time. Northwestern has the quarter system which makes it even more challenging. Its a killer schedule. Relationship with Evanston is not great, but then you have a city nearby. And you would be surprised by the half empty stadium at Northwestern even though its in the big 10.
And Northwestern is flat and Cornell is hilly. If you really want to nitpick</p>
<p>Visit both schools. I just went on a 2 day visitation last Spring during PhD admit weekends and was surprised by how depressed everyone looked (I guess it /was/ the beginning of March and still snowed in). I knew it wasn’t the right place for me.</p>
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<p>Why stop at NY State?</p>
<p>People who live in NYC think the rest of the state doesn’t matter.</p>
<p>People who live in Manhattan don’t think the other NYC boroughs matter.</p>
<p>People who live in Manhattan below 98th street think that the rest of Manhattan doesn’t matter.</p>
<p>I still find it galling when people from Manhattan and long island refer to Westchester as “Upstate”</p>
<p>k&s - You’re out of date - living in the outer boroughs is now “hip.” Brooklyn, parts of Queens and even Staten Island are now hot spots. So is north of 96th Street!</p>
<p>^ The people who live there just like to think it’s “hip.” lol</p>
<p>Staten Island is hip now? I’ll believe it when I see it.</p>
<p>Looking forward to living in Brooklyn though.</p>
<p>arbiter - there was just an article in the Times saying that artists are moving in because of the low cost and great light exposure. I wouldn’t be caught dead in SI but I’m strictly a Manhattan person myself (sort of shows my age). Being b&t (bridge and tunnel) was a total insult in my day! Of course when I lived in the upper west side it was still considered dangerous.</p>
<p>Sorry, now we’re way off topic!</p>
<p>I definitely travel to NYC a good amount (maybe 4-5 times a year since I graduated from undergrad), but Staten Island? Really?!?</p>
<p>Brooklyn/Williamsburg, Queens (and all its mini-ethnic neighborhoods), and maybe even the southern edge of Harlem I can see as getting overrun by both hipsters and yuppies … but Staten Island!!!</p>