As far as Buff or Bing, both are fine for CS, go with which one you like more after visiting. I work in tech btw…
@kollegeguy - It’s clear @lostaccount wasn’t going to elaborate on what he or she was trying to say…let it go…
the cold weather also has a negative impact on the apps to harvard,mit,dartmouth, and bc. the number of people that don’t attend these schools is enormous when they realize it’s freezing in new england in the winter. also, snow is a problem because they don’t plow the roads or shovel the sidewalks, it just accumulates until may, then it melts.
Weather aside, is there anyone here who can offer the OP any sort of real guidance as far as these two schools go?
Sure I will elaborate. Not from Long Island or anywhere else in NY. Most of upstate, CNY and the Southern Tier is economically depressed and has been for the last 20 years. This is no secret. Entire communities are devastated with unrelenting poverty. Politicians have compared it to Appalachian poverty similar to what is seen in places like West Virginia. Because communities tend to be isolated and small, there is nothing else to absorb workers as factories close. A 20 year brain drain is hard on a community. While downstate is seeing a resurgence in the economy the same can’t be said about other areas in NY. Flight of educated workers in these areas opened up a housing glut that attracts uneducated unemployed people from other areas looking for cheap housing. The economy impacts on most aspects of life. There are two separate economies in NY. This isn’t to say that there are not nice places in these areas. There certainly are. Some people find it preferable to live in a region that is not relentlessly economically depressed.
You are not even from New York State? No wonder you are so wrong so often. Looking back at your posting history, you have a long streak of being called out for posting wrong information.
Relentless poverty? Maybe in some areas but not as a general rule.
Here are some quick facts from the Census bureau that took 2 minutes to find:
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2009-2013
US Average 15.4
New York Average 15.3
Albany County (Albany) 13.0
Eric County (Buffalo) 14.6
Onondaga County (Syracuse) 14.8
Monroe County (Rochester) 15.0
Broome County (Binghamton) 17.4
New York County (Manhattan) 17.7
Kings (Brooklyn) 23.2
Bronx 29.8
Only the Binghamton area is above the national poverty rate average in upstate. Looking at the above numbers, maybe you should direct your attention to poverty to the other side of the Hudson.
No one will argue that the upstate economy hasn’t been battered by the loss of manufacturing jobs over the years. This includes NY City and Long Island and the entire industrial belt by the way. But the perpetuation of misinformation and stereotypes like your posts based on ignorance of facts is really ironic on a board discussing higher education.
Cuse 87, Because I am not “from” NY does not mean that I don’t know NY well. I think this site allows for disagreement but I don’t think following me around and criticizing what I write is consistent with the intent of the site. Perhaps a better approach is to accept that people have different opinions. Your looking at my posts and “calling me out” does not mean I am incorrect. And no, I don’t have a history of posting wrong information even if you don’t agree with my opinion. I can’t hunt down your other posts to evaluate but I wouldn’t even if I could. That isn’t the intent of this site.
The list of average incomes by county does not address whether upstate communities (west of river) are economically depressed because averages are fairly useless with bimodal distributions and large unequal variances across areas. Areas considered “downstate” have great income disparities-communities with great wealth adjacent to communities with great poverty. In contrast, communities west of the Hudson tend to have smaller variances with more incomes closer to community averages. So for Buffalo, for instance, the income for most people will hover closer to 30K whereas in the population around NYC entire towns are likely to make over 100K and in another community on the other side of the county, few people may make anything. So the variances are not homogeneous across the two areas. What is most influential is the area surrounding each of the schools. Feel free to post your opinion as will I.I chose these 4 schools but I’m sure that the trend would be similar for the other SUNYS, although there may be a few exceptions.
SUNY Buffalo is situated in Buffalo NY-Persons below poverty level, percent, 2009-2013 30.7% Buffalo 15.3% (state)
Median household income, 2009-2013 $30,942Buffalo $58,003 State
Suny Binghamton is situated in Binghamton NY-
Median household income, 2009-2013 $30,978 Binghamton $58,003 state
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2009-2013 33.3% Binghamton 15.3%State
SUNY Albany is situated in Albany NY-
Median household income, 2009-2013 $59,394 Albany $58,003 State
Persons below poverty level, percent definition and source info Persons below poverty level, percent, 2009-2013 13.0%Albany 15.3%State
SUNY Stony Brook-CDP is the census-designated place
“The median income for a household in the CDP was $90,009, and the median income for a family was $95,567. Males had a median income of $68,400 versus $41,770 for females. The per capita income for the CDP was $35,247. About 1.9% of families and 2.9% of the population were below the poverty line, including 1.9% of those under age 18 and 2.9% of those age 65 or over.”
(for Suffolk County-Median household income, 2009-2013 $87,763 Suffolk County $58,003 State
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2009-2013 6.4%County 15.3%State)
Expanding this to include all SUNY’s yields similar results.
As I noted, there are some very nice communities West of the Hudson River. At the end of your post you conclude that “No one will argue that the upstate economy hasn’t been battered by the loss of manufacturing jobs over the years”. That is exactly correct. If downstate has been “battered” it has more resiliency. Certainly few would agree that the prosperity that you see downstate is equally apparent upstate.
Binghamton vs Buffalo? After all the research and visits at my house, my son choose Buffalo out of 15 schools he applied to (and was accepted at all).
Buffalo is well known for it’s health sciences and engineering. They have a newly built computer science building.
Each fall there is an engineering (you should make sure it includes comp sci) job and internship fair. Son and his GF were able to secure summer paid internships this way and also job offers of which son had 3 before the end of fall term senior year.
We were very happy with the school and all the great opportunities on campus.
By the way, for the poster that replied earlier, Buffalo is easy to get to from LI- planes from Islip and direct flights from JFK and LGA!!
As far as law school is concerned, GPA and LSAT are most important. However, there are no guarantees you will end up there so it is best to have a major that you can have a career, just in case.
i hope the day comes in my lifetime where everyone will know how to use it’s. come on, this is an edumacation site and it’s 5th grade grammar.
Jimtoes, is that your big hope for changes that come about during your lifetime? I like MLK’s better. Well, as some say, “Different strokes for different folks”.
my dream is better, by a longshot
Any reason not to consider Albany or Stony Brook, since you said you were accepted to all SUNY?
Binghamton, whether or not it is deserved, has a reputation of being a nasty place. Buffalo has gotten a LOT of money to improve the city, and is much more a metropolitan area.
Between the two, I’d go for Buffalo giving a better chance for opportunities such as interning at a law firm undergrad.
rhandco, don’t you think that Albany is as metropolitan as Buffalo. I agree that it has benefited from the money but I also think Albany offers similar opportunities and the city is slightly more energetic .