<p>my stats:
race: asian
rising senior
gpa: 3.8 uw / 4.0 w
volunteer: few
sports: varsity baseball and golf
ec: few+sports
sat: below 1700 but confident to raise it up to 1900
7 ap courses</p>
<p>*I am looking into business field (specifically finance)
*I have limited financial support
*IS/OOS doesn’t matter
*I consider quality life
*any other facts dont bother me</p>
<p>1) which colleges should i “DEFINITELY” eliminate from my list?
2) which ones are reach, match, safety regardless of their overall rankings?</p>
<li>Cornell </li>
<li>Johns Hopkins
18 Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University</li>
<li>University of California-Berkeley</li>
<li>University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
24.University of Virginia</li>
<li>University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill</li>
<li>University of Southern California </li>
<li>Wake Forest </li>
<li>Boston College </li>
<li>New York University </li>
<li>Wisconsin </li>
<li>Case Western
Georgia Tech</li>
<li>U Illinois UC </li>
<li>U of Washington </li>
<li>Penn State </li>
<li>Florida </li>
<li>UT Austin</li>
</ol>
<p>Wow, where to start. Most of these schools are out of reach with a 1900 SATI. You don't give class rank or SATIIs which would be helpful. Where are you in state?</p>
<p>I can't do you any good, but you seem to be reaching a bit too much. I guess if you applied to a few you might get into one or a couple. I know you have a shot at UW especially with a better SAT.</p>
<p>Even if you get a 1900, you'd still be near or below the 25th percentile in almost all of those schools except the less seletive public schools you listed. So start cutting up there. Unless you've got some major non-academic hook.</p>
<p>My first question to you would be: Why these schools in particular? What do you find attractive about each school? Give us a short summary of why you like each one, and try to be as specific as possible about why you think each is a fit for you. Then we can point you in the right direction of which schools should be on or off your list. And, here's a tip: If you can't write a short summary with specific reasons why you like a particular school, then it probably shouldn't be on your list in the first place.</p>
<p>Another factor that you need to consider if you need financial aid is that your best bet for good financial aid is NOT going to be at reach schools like those you have listed, but at schools which are matches for your stats because schools tend to give more favorable financial aid packages to students near the top of the admissions pile. And, while you say you don't care about the Out of state student issue, if you need substantial financial aid, you must keep in mind that financial aid for out of state students at public institutions is usually not the best. State institutions tend to rely heavily on self-help aid such as loans and work study when structuring financial aid packages for out of state students. Add in that you'll be paying private school prices to attend as an out of state student at many of the publics on your list, and you may want to look elsewhere, starting with your own in-state system. If you happen to be an international student, things get even dicier because your financial need will also be considered in admissions at many schools and financial aid may be even more limited. So, I'd worry less about the rankings and more about where you are likely to be able to afford to attend first and foremost.</p>
<p>I don't know what year you are in, but if you're a senior, you should probably look at the worst case scenario and choose schools for the time being based on your current SAT scores and GPA, not what you anticipate they might be, as well as the likelihood of good financial aid and merit scholarship possibilities. You can add to your list if and when you do get that 1900 SAT, or your financial situation changes, but for now, focus on your current scores and build a reasonable list there. If your scores do go up, you will then have a nice list of match and safety schools ready to go, and you can add in a few reaches.</p>
<p>"You don't give class rank or SATIIs which would be helpful. Where are you in state?"
i am near 20th out of 300
def in 10%
I haven't taken SAT2 yet but thinking about math and korean
if i feel like i would score higher on math 1, should i take it instead of math2?
i live in Virginia</p>
<p>"Even if you get a 1900, you'd still be near or below the 25th percentile in almost all of those schools except the less seletive public schools you listed."</p>
<p>the fact that i am taking a SAT class gives me a potential of scoring high depending on my effort. Can we talk about this hypothetically assuming 2100?</p>
<p>"Why these schools in particular? What do you find attractive about each school?"</p>
<p>originally i had about 5 schools i was looking for. HOwever, I just didn't want to miss any opportunities on the colleges that i have a shot at. So I looked at selectivity, business-oriented ranking, overall ranking etc. and just eliminated the colleges that didn't meet my desire and level. They weren't chosen by random opinions though.</p>
<p>i completely understand it doesn't make much sense to go from below 1700 to 2100, but if i work night and day just fighting thru to 2100. What happens then? At what number of rank do i get start?
I am sorry i sound really unrealistic, but i am in desperate position.</p>
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i completely understand it doesn't make much sense to go from below 1700 to 2100, but if i work night and day just fighting thru to 2100. What happens then? At what number of rank do i get start?
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<p>In this case:</p>
<ol>
<li>Cornell - Reach</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins - Reach
18 Vanderbilt - Reach</li>
<li>Notre Dame - Slightly Reach</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University - Reach</li>
<li>University of California-Berkeley - Reach</li>
<li>University of Michigan-Ann Arbor - Slightly Reach
24.University of Virginia - Match</li>
<li>University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill - Slightly Reach</li>
<li>University of Southern California - Match</li>
<li>Wake Forest - Match</li>
<li>Boston College - Match</li>
<li>New York University - Match</li>
<li>Wisconsin - Match</li>
<li>Case Western - Safety
Georgia Tech - Slightly Reach</li>
<li>U Illinois UC - Match</li>
<li>U of Washington - Safety</li>
<li>Penn State - Safety</li>
<li>Florida - Safety</li>
<li>UT Austin - Match</li>
</ol>
<p>advise you eliminate UC berkeley unless you score at least 2300 on the SAT. It is a HUGE REACH FOR OOS students. What so many students seem to forget, or don't know, is that the UC system is the state university for calif students, and are funded with Calif state taxes. They have a legislative mandate to take qualified Calif students before OOS students, unless the OOS students have something remarkable to contribute to the school population. And with the boomlet population here in Calif, there are fewer chances for instate kids to get in, let alone OOS. This year, at all UC's there were more acceptances [ except the new UC campus in Mercid] than had been expected. Doubles have been turned into triples, kids are having to bunk in what were before open areas, etc. That will mean fewer students will be accepted this next year. Less than 5 % of OOS students are accepted to ther UC's- it's harder to get in than the IVY's , based on statistics. I fear you'll just be disappointed if you apply.</p>
<p>i am sorry, but there is so much false INFO on these boards.</p>
<p>The notion that UVA and UC Berk and UCLA are ridiculous reaches for out of state kids is just not true.</p>
<p>I know one girl in the northeast that didnt get into Cornell, JHU, or Georgetown, yet, she got into UVA. She applied ED to cornell btw, and got rejected.</p>
<p>My friend, got admitted to UC Berk from the northeast, and didnt hit one other top 30 school except USC. Both of these students had under 1400 SATs, showing that you dont have to be extraordinary to get into these flagship state schools out of state.</p>