<p>linny, I’d listen to your dd. It’s been less than 24 hours so no need to panic.</p>
<p>Oregon is 216 according to my GC.</p>
<p>[The</a> area’s National Merit semifinalists | Cathy Gainor | Local | Washington Examiner](<a href=“http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/2011/09/areas-national-merit-semifinalists]The”>http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/2011/09/areas-national-merit-semifinalists) DC/MD and VA suburbs list.</p>
<p>Checked the NY website and I made it. Now I wonder when the school will tell me. I know they usually make a big deal out of it, so we’ll see what happens.
Only 3 other people from my school made it, which surprises me. I thought there would be at least 4 or 5 other people, if not more.</p>
<p>Can anyone confirm the 220 cutoff for WA?</p>
<p>For old times sake (I did this job a few years ago) - </p>
<p>Updating Kentucky, Vermont, Puerto Rico, Oregon </p>
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<p>PLEASE DON’T FREAK OUT! Check the explanation of the notation in the first post. When you see, for instance, AZ <= 219, that means that Arizona’s cutoff is no higher than 219. This comes from a report like, “I live in Arizona, made a 219, and got my letter.” When you see, for instance, TX > 216, that means that Texas’ cutoff is higher than 216. This comes from a report like, “I live in Texas, made a 216, and didn’t make it.”</p>
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<p>Remaining states that need to be finalized:
AK, DE, IA,
ME, MT, NE, NH, ND,
SD, UT, WI, WY</p>
<p>Updating GA, MI, MN</p>
<p>AL = 211 (post #281, per NMSC) +1
AK = ?
AZ = 213 (post #126/#132, per GC) +4
AR = 205 (post #498, per GC) +2
CA = 221 (post #321, per GC) +2
CO = 215 (posts #537, #543, established by score comparison) +3
CT = 220 (post #508, per GC) +1
DE <= 219 (post #588)
DC = 223 (post #633)
FL = 214 (post #107, per GC) +4
GA = 218 (post #645) +3
HI = 216 (post #225, per GC) +1
ID = 211 (posts #522, #525, per student NMSF) +3
IL = 216 (post #110, per GC) +2
IN = 214 (posts #147, #193, established by score comparison) +2
IA <= 211 (post #536)
KS = 214 (post #87, per principal) +3
KY = 212 (post #656)
LA = 209 (post #459, per GC) -1
ME = ?
MD = 221 (post #509, per GC) +1
MA = 223 (post #561) No change
MI = 210 (post #653) +1
MN = 215 (post #654) +2
MS = 205 (post #192, NMSC) No change
MO = 213 (post #497, per GC) +3
MT <= 209 (post #90)
NE <= 215 (post #10)
NV = 209 (post #635) +1
NH <= 216, >209 (post #563)
NJ = 223 (post #493, per GS) +2
NM = 210 (post #302, per GC) +4
NY = 219 (post #621) +2
NC = 217 (post #637) +3
ND = ?
OH = 214 (post #28, established by score comparison, see also #583, 630) +2
OK = 209 (post #106, NMSC) +3
OR = 216 (post #677)
PA = 215 (post #629) -1
RI = 213 (post #638) +2
SC = 211 (post #618) +3
SD = ?
TN = 214 (post #617) +2
TX = 219 (post #46, per principal; post #267, per GC) +4
UT = ?
VT = 217 (post #661)
VA = 220 (post #616) +2
WA = 220 (post #491, per GC) +2
WV = 204 (post #627) +2
WI <= 209 (post #166, #191)
WY = ?</p>
<p>Puerto Rico = 204 (post #668)</p>
<p>10(?) Boarding school regions
New England Boarding Schools = 223 (post #636)
These usually are set to be equal to the highest cut-off score among the individual states in the region.</p>
<p>Internationals=?
This usually is set to be equal to the highest cut-off score among all the individual states.</p>
<p>Commended (national cutoff) = 202 (Class of 2012 Notification Letters - College Confidential)
Any person with a score equal to or higher than this cutoff who is not a NMSF receives commended status. This group represents the highest 50,000 scorers.</p>
<p>Can’t confirm the WA cutoff (my son’s counselor said it was 217, but I don’t have anything to back that number up). Here is a link to the semifinalists in the Seattle area:</p>
<p>[Local</a> News | Lakeside, Interlake lead local list of National Merit Scholarship semifinalists | Seattle Times Newspaper](<a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016209477_meritscholars15m.html]Local”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016209477_meritscholars15m.html)</p>
<p>Has anyone heard what the National Hispanic Scholar cut-off was and when we should hear? Last year I think was only 185 and my S is a commended NMS (just missed the cutoff in Ca). His school has not told any of the commended students of their status (there were 3) and haven’t mentioned the National Hispanic Scholars at all.</p>
<p>@smilldeb Exact same situation here. My dd missed OH cutoff by ONE DARN point for NMSF, waiting to hear about NHRP. There is a lot of info on the College Admissions/Hispanic Students section of CC. Good luck to your student!</p>
<p>From College Board:</p>
<p>NHRP Dates and Deadlines
October of junior year: Students take the PSAT/NMSQT and identify themselves as Hispanic/Latino on the answer sheet. </p>
<p>Mid-September of senior year: NHRP provides counselors with the names of the students who are being recognized and distributes award certificates to counselors for student recognition. NHRP also sends out formal award letters congratulating the students on their recognition. </p>
<p>October of senior year: NHRP distributes the list of students to subscribing colleges and universities.</p>
<p>ViTong4, the principal requirement for advancement from semi-finalist to finalist is that you have to be breathing. :-)</p>
<p>Seriously, the requirements are to write an essay and turn it in by the deadline, and to take the SAT (causing you to spend money on that) and send your scores to NMSC by the deadline. Presumably, if your SAT score, or grades, or essay are SO BAD that it causes NMSC to question that your PSAT score was a total fluke or some sort of cheating, then they might investigate, but the most common reason is that the students don’t turn stuff in by the deadline.</p>
<p>Now going from Finalist to actually getting any money is entirely different. Some really big companies (like Fortune 100) automatically award a scholarship to every employee dependent who is a finalist. Some colleges automatically award money to National Merit Finalists. In some places a civic or community group will award one or more scholarships to NMF, but those are usually limited by the amount of money that they have, so your chances would depend on who you were competing against.</p>
<p>(The deadlines do matter. My nephew missed all of the deadlines because his high school didn’t think that the letter was important and so he didn’t find out until December of his senior year that he was a semi-finalist. His high school also only sent one of the transcripts to the colleges that he applied to, and so he only got admission and financial aid from that one school. Be aggressive; don’t let your child lose out because some school employee(s) is(are) incompetent or lazy.)</p>
<p>Does anyone know of a link to Iowa semi-finalists? I live in Illinois, but I work in Iowa. I work for a newspaper, and my boss’s wife is the secretary at a local public school. There has been no announcement or press release that have come in to the paper from any of the local districts, and my announcement of my son’s NMSF has been met with polite congratulations, but no one here seems to know anything about NM…</p>
<p>Linnylu – I have a copy of the National Merit Corp’s press release to the Ohio media. PM me with your daughter’s name and school if you would like me to check if she is listed.</p>
<p>^^^ I disagree. I do not know the circumstances (nomb) but I know of a top student who was NMSF, but not a finalist. The student did everything required. I had the impression it was the high school’s decision. (IL private HS, ironically) I’m sure it is rare, but it happens. This student was admitted to U of C. But NMF is not always automatic, even if all requirements are satisfied.</p>
<p>Has anyone seen a list of MN semifinalists?</p>
<p>OhioMom3000 – your example, where the school messed up and the student didn’t advance, falls under my general rule that normally the only thing that prevents a semi-finalist from getting finalist is that somebody screws up – either school or kid. Not only can the kids miss deadlines, but so can the schools. You are not competing with the other semi-finalists as far as test scores, grades, quality of your essay, etc., merely on the technical details of student and school doing certain things by certain deadlines. If every single one of the 16,000 semi-finalists and their schools dotted all of their i’s and crossed all of their t’s, NMSC would presumably be happy to make them all finalists.</p>
<p>It has been speculated that the reason that so many states had their cut-offs go up by such large amounts is that in this economy people are paying more attention and being more diligent and careful about pursuing anything that gets them scholarship money. If that is true, then we probably should expect to see a higher semi-finalist to finalist conversion rate, too.</p>
<p>(I’m not surprised about that student who went to the UofC, my alma mater, as it has a multi-generational history of taking students who got into tiffs with their high school pointy-headed bureaucrats. I had a friend from CA who did not have a high school diploma because CA required 4 years of gym, and you flunked gym if you cut class more than a certain amount. She cut class and went to the beach a LOT. Not so much that she didn’t get 5’s on all four of her AP exams and straight A’s on all of her academic classes, but in 4 years she only managed to pass 2 semesters of PE…)</p>
<p>^ The school did not mess up. From my understanding, it was their decision, although there was nothing even remotely like a disciplinary issue. I really don’t know the exact details, except to say it was not a mistake, it was intentional. The student was a top student of the highest caliber.</p>
<p>westillinoismom - is there a specific county in Iowa? I have nt come across an announcement covering all of Iowa.</p>
<p>Well, I think I am ticking off the guidance counselor by the tone of his email today.
He wrote me that yes, D was a NMSF and she should be receiving something from National Merit. I wrote back and said that the principal or counselor should have received a packet or at least a piece of paper with instructions to go online, and asked if I should ask the principal about it. (I didn’t want to keep pestering the counselor)</p>
<p>His email back to me was: Ms. _______________,the information was not to be released to families until September 14th. I was given the information today.</p>
<p>That is all it said and there was no signature, so I am guessing that he is perturbed. Of course we know this isn’t true. Ugh. Our school has had at least 1 NMSF every year, so I don’t know why they don’t know what is going on.</p>
<p>Now I am worried that the counselor will be ticked off and not follow through on things that need to be done.</p>
<p>Congrats, linnylu and d. I made sure that I had a spreadsheet of things I needed to ask GC for over kiddo’s senior year, both NM and “regular college stuff”. Had d hand it to her along w/the various forms and such. This included deadlines that things needed to be sent, exactly what was needed, copies of forms if necessary, and stamped, addressed envelopes. As the deadlines were approaching, had d “drop by” guidance and ask if there was anything else needed to make sure the materials made it to the schools on time (she had an extra hurdle because she was also auditioning for school musical theatre programs, and had additional deadlines and requirements to be granted audition slots on campus). Did we do the GC’s job for her? Maybe…but too much was riding on this (and our h.s. is really good at sending the kids to Local Big State U…but had not heard of many of kiddo’s schools…). </p>
<p>Suffice it to say that GCs have a lot of irons in the fire, but it is their responsibility to serve every kid on their list. Oh? And when all the paperwork, etc was in? D baked cookies and took them, along with a handwritten thank you note, to each person that wrote a rec letter, sent a transcript, whatever on her behalf. The GC was pretty much speechless…</p>