<p>Ah! So in the case that I can’t send my transcript and I have to repeat courses, they would know that I may and probably have had repeated courses, but would not know which exact courses I have repeated.</p>
<p>I’m just kidding bru. I don’t have any advice but I feel you. Ill pray for you. You’re in a tough situation esp with papa bear.</p>
<p>LOL, “Undocumented Immigrant” without explanation pretty much spells M-E-X-I-C-A-N in Southern California. Sorry to ruffle your feathers, but I think my previous assumption was perfectly reasonable.</p>
<p>kernlsanders: I don’t recall calling anyone a xenophobe but rather requesting that you refrain from using the xenophobic term “illegal alien”. Again, I don’t know how liberal or conservative this forum is or where every poster is from (aside from the ones who have disclosed that information), but I’d like at least in my topic that such labels not be used.</p>
<p>Anyways, I’ve already apologized for my vagueness as I had forgotten that not everyone knows about the AB540, so I’m a bit befuddled as to why you’re still one page behind on discussion. @_@ Also, I apologize for using “big words” while addressing you. I will refrain from doing so from this point on.</p>
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<p>jamesinho: I’m at a loss of words for what you said there… :(</p>
<p>FiveKey,
I understand this is a very complex situation, and must not be the easiest thing to deal with in addition to what your father has put you through. No words can express how infuriated I became reading your post, and the fact that your father seems to show no remorse got me even more. No one in my family would ever do that to any of their children! You have my fullest sympathy. </p>
<p>Unfortunately you will have to speak to your former school, and see if there is any way that you can get your transcripts. From what I understand you have only done one full semester? If that is the case and you are applying as a sophomore transfer to UCLA, they will also look at HS transcripts. Again, as everyone else has suggested… speak to a UC official.</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
<p>FiveKey- i would like to disclose to you that i am so left i am off the chart, and i am proud of it.</p>
<p>Oh, and unfortunately, yes I do think that being in debt to another institution is going to affect you somewhat, but I’m no admissions official so IDK</p>
<p>alexahet: I have actually completed a full year at my private institution. Another mistake on my part for not explicitly stating how many semesters I have finished.</p>
<p>My sister has told me to simply finish the 60 units required to transfer along with the IGETC and major requirement courses and to apply this fall. Apparently this will be possible with AP credits and if I finish a majority of them before they evaluate my application (assuming I can finish them before the day that I am to officially transfer universities). I guess I can’t utilize my coursework from my former university as I can’t get my transcripts anymore…</p>
<p>Dude, are you allergic to being nice when people are trying to help you? (and since when is responding 6 minutes after your post “one page behind”?)</p>
<p>But, in the interest of not being a meanie, my bad on the xenophobe/xenophobic! That was totally my linguistic blunder.</p>
<p>We need a moderator: Jane, back me up here- If I’m being unreasonable, I’ll bow out, shut the eff up, and look for some "nom"able photos for the late night thread!</p>
<p>kernlsanders- ur my girl u kno it, ;)</p>
<p>For that, I will find us some extra-nomables! But I don’t want to be a thread hijacker, so let me get out of here!!</p>
<p>Good luck, OP, even though you’re a sourpuss :p… (I wonder if sourpuss will get “starred” out- they “star” the strangest things on here.) Please let us know how it all turns out!!</p>
<p>@FiveKey: I was defending my…</p>
<p>You see, I was trying to explain…</p>
<p>It’s Spanish see, and you said…</p>
<p>Ah, never mind. Good luck getting your situation worked out.</p>
<p>i hate to say this…but if you don’t mention your previous university in your application there’s a really good chance the uc’s will probably never even know you’re hiding a transcript from them…i believe it was talked about in another thread in the past about how they would have to first suspect you’ve attended another institution and to check it, they would actually have to have the name of the other institution you attended…they can’t just put your information into the database and get a list of all the places you’ve attended…but it’s all quite risky (no idea just how much risk, but definitely too much in my opinion, but it’s still an option…), if they find out they will automatically reject you</p>
<p>I’m inclined to agree with lomkh, especially seeing as it was an OOS private school with no federal finaid. If OP doesn’t mention the school, he might be able to just reboot his academic career at a CCC and then transfer to a UC later. Maybe. That said, if the UC ever finds out that there is another transcript floating around out there, they have every right to remove the welcome mat and rescind any degree.</p>
<p>@FiveKey: Hey, at the risk of further confusing you with my posts: given your changed situation, you can declare yourself an independent and then file for bankruptcy. In that case the college would have to hand the transcripts over by law. Despite your visa status, you went to a CA HS, right? Then you must have a SSN. IIRC, that’s all you need to file a petition. You’d ruin your credit for the rest of your twenties but unless you plan to buy a house or a car, who cares? Your visa situation will make that rough to do anyway. You won’t be able to get a credit card, but if you can afford to have a credit card, you can afford to pay your college what you owe them.</p>
<p>Bankruptcy sounds evil and it is, but it just means legally declaring that you can’t pay your bills. Which apparently you can’t.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I feel for you, which is the only reason I’m bothering to attempt to offer helpful advice rather than skip this thread altogether. You got a rough deal and probably don’t deserve it. However you sort it out, I wish you the best.</p>
<p>I think it’s in your best interest to get the transcript. You really can’t withhold information like this. I mean on the app, it says report classes taken at ALL institutions, withholding this may get your admission and even your degree rescinded. How close are you till you finish paying it off? I would focus on this first and foremost. And in terms of your status, like you said, you can get it sorted out later down the line.</p>
<p>I think jamesinho gave some A+ advice there.</p>
<p>I have a friend at Berkeley who is LEGALLY here without a visa, and he doesn’t even get financial aid- not from the university’s state funding and not from the government. So unless you get merit scholarships you are still going to be paying 20k per year for housing, tuition, books, etc.
However, I would definitely agree that you need to talk to a lawyer and then a UC rep. I work with immigration lawyers in the context of my job, so PM me if you want and I’d be happy to give you a list of lawyers and clinics who take on pro bono immigration work. Honestly, I would agree that lying to UC is gonna bite you in the butt, and it’s better to take more time finishing college than to risk getting automatically rejected. If you can’t declare for bankruptcy, have you considered putting school on hold for a year or two and working full time? You mentioned your grades went downhill when you were working and studying at the same time . . . if you can’t get the financial situation sorted out any other way, you will NEED to pay it off to get that transcript. Yes, it’s a bummer, but stuff happens that isn’t our fault and applying at 21 instead of 19 will show UC’s that you worked really hard to get in, whereas applying now would be a huge risk. Honesty is the best policy on these things.</p>
<p>p.s. California has very good rules about oral contracts, so if you have any way of proving that your dad promised to pay for college, such as letters, emails, or a witness like your Mom who heard him say it, you would probably have a civil case on your hands and there’s a chance he could be forced to pay off your debt. But again, I work with lawyers but I’m not one myself (yet!) so you should definitely consult one.</p>
<p>^^im pretty sure cpp is right. you could have a civil case on your hands. i say sue that ■■■■■■■ of a father you have and pay your previous university, get your transcripts, and transfer to ucla.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the replies! I spoke with an official from my former university today and he said that if I’m “lucky”, I may be able to get an unofficial transcript at best.</p>
<p>edbraga: Without my father’s assistance, it would take a few years while working full-time to pay this sum off by myself. At this point, it seems like two situations are possible: they’ll either let me apply without a transcript so I can attend school while paying the debt to my older school off slowly or I’ll have to work for a few years to pay off the debt as soon as possible then begin schooling to start the transfer process to a UC. I don’t particularly favor the second option, but if that is the only case, I guess I have no real other option.</p>
<p>cpbbookworm: Thanks for your reply and insight. Under the AB540, I will be able to pay in-state tuition for UC institutions. Honestly, I don’t mind retaking courses in the absence of a transcript, and it would be ideal if the UC would let me apply without showing my transcript from my former university since it’s virtually impossible with my current accounting issue. Hopefully, they’ll take this situation into account and let me apply granted that I retake all course to account for my lack of transcript. If not, I guess my only option is to work full-time, as you said, to pay off the debt and to obtain that mandatory transcript. I don’t know how long that would take, but I guess I could also take a few courses at my local CC while doing this; however, I’m crossing my fingers that they’ll let me apply without a transcript in my situation.</p>
<p>jamesinho: Thanks for your advice too. I’d be too scared to lie on an application, so it kind of seems out of the question to pretend that I’ve never been to another institution. I’ve never thought about filing for bankruptcy; I’m only 19 years old, so I’m quite new to all these things. It sounds like a reasonable choice if I have no other option. As you’ve mentioned, the word “bankruptcy” does sound pretty evil!</p>
<p>Taking my father to court sounds like a decent idea, but at the same time, I think I’d have trouble doing such a thing to my biological father. In addition, I have a strange fear of court houses and policemen due to my status. However, I’ll keep this in mind along with the possibility of filing bankruptcy.</p>