A good site for students interested in healthcare career is [Explore Health Careers](Types of Health Careers). Student can search for job based on a variety of parameters, including years-in-school.
if your D just wants to ER service, she can do that as a nurse, as a NP/APRN or a PA. PAs have the option of doing a 1-2 year specialty training program (similar to how doctors specialize after med school.) NP/APRNS can do the same. Nurses can choose just work in one area. (My next door neighbor daughter is a ER nurse and started permanently in the ER within a year of getting her RN.)
I don’t have anything to add to the suggestions above. I will reiterate that BA/MD program are enormously competitive, moreso than gaining admission to elite colleges. And that all med school hopeful need a Plan B and Plan C because most pre-med won’t get accepted–or even apply to med school.
Your d is frankly getting way ahead of herself saying she wants to be a EM physician. She first needs to decide if she wants to be a physician because there’s chance that even if she does make it into med school, she won’t be a competitive applicant for EM. Unless your D would be happy as a primary care physician (family medicine, general internal medicine), she should think long & hard before she commits to this career path.
Hofstra on Long Island also now has a medical school and offers a 4+4 BS-BA/MD program. With the whole Northwell Medical system taking over LI, there are lots of opportunities to volunteer, etc.
Checking back with you all. I cannot believe that it is October already and we are ready to hit the submit button on the applications. I wanted to get your opinions on the current list. We are instate for NY. Stats are 4.0 GPA weighted, 31ACT, 5 APS so far all 4s 3 APS to go. Do you have any suggestions for additional schools? We won’t get any financial aid so we only want schools that give merit money. We can afford COA of 35K max from 529 and current income. Maybe able to go up to 40K with basic student loans for a great school. Need strong pre-med /science.
Match Schools
SUNY Binghamton
SUNY Stonybrook
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY Buffalo
Reach schools
Case Western
Lafayette
American
George Washington
I think that she has 4 great SUNY schools. I originally classified Binghamton as a slight reach …but I now realize that it’s a solid match and I am confident she will have several SUNY options to choose from.
St. John’s is a good safety school if she gets enough merit (is it guaranteed?) and if she would be happy attending. Has she considered adding another SUNY such as New Paltz?
I don’t think that your daughter will get enough merit (if any) from her reach schools to make them affordable. Has she looked at the University of Delaware or TCNJ?
Agree with @twogirls that none of those reaches are likely to meet your budget as significant merit is hard to come by at all four.
U Scranton was mentioned twice earlier. It would be a safety for admission, a match for decent merit, and a reach for a major merit award. I’d characterize St. Joe’s the same way.
Thank you so much for your responses. St. John’s is guaranteed merit it looks like $32,500.00. It is too close to home but we are keeping it on the list. I forgot to add Fordham and Seton Hall. I think she would get a lot of merit from Seton Hall as well. We have not considered Temple as I heard it is in a very bad neighborhood and that is concerning. Also not interested in U Scanton. I have heard great things about U Del but I think SUNY Bing is a better school overall. We are going to see UCONN and UMDCP. What do you think the chances are at either one of those? May apply to UPenn as well.
I wish she would have been able to ge a few more points on the ACT, could have really benefited from the new changes. Going into this process we made it clear what we could afford and what she had to do to get the merit money. I am feeling like she fell a little short but I think we are lucky to live in a state with a great flagship university and we would all be happy with Binghampton.
I think your daughter will get into UConn, and she may get a little bit of merit (merit may have gotten harder …I am not sure). I am not convinced it will come down enough in price.
UMD-CP will be a harder admit…although I do think she may ultimately be accepted. The odds of her getting merit are slim to none.
Is your daughter considering UPenn (Ivy League)? Or do you mean Penn State?
If it’s Penn State…i think it will be unaffordable. She will not get merit aid sufficient to lower the cost to your price point in my opinion.
If it’s UPenn…that school doesn’t give merit aid at all. So if you don’t have financial need…UPenn should be scratched.
UConn…she might get merit, but it’s likely to be too costly.
I think UMD is the same.
But she can apply and see.
Really OOS flagship universities have an obligation to their instate residents. Sometimes they provide good merit to OOS students (e.g. U of South Carolina), but most often they do not make up the difference between the in and out of state rates…so look carefully.
Use the net price calculators.
Frankly, if you are looking at UMD and UConn, I don’t understand why you aren’t looking at UDel?
I agree that Penn State and UPenn will both be unaffordable. I would take both off the list.
I would also take UMD-CP off the list unless you are willing to be full pay.
I would put UDel on the list…it’s possible your D will get a little merit. I agree that Binghamton is a stronger school academically, but Bing isn’t a safety.
No UPenn is out of the question. I know she doesn’t have a chance getting in there and it would be unaffordable. Looking at UMD because it seems stronger academically and UConn because they have a joint BS/MD program which her stats seems to put her in the range for. I will give UDEL a look. thank you so much for your advice. I don’t think Bing would be a safety, that is why I put it in the “match” category. I understand how competitive it has become but I think her stats put her well within the range of their admitted students. She has also shown demonstrated interest, having visited and met with admission rep at her school. She is also in the top 10% of her class and her stats are not such that they would think she was using it as a safety and deny her. I have known students with higher scores getting waitlisted there. She will need to start applying for some outside scholarships.
Just a reminder that BS/MD programs everywhere are really more competitive for admission than most elite colleges. Your daughter has very nice stats, but a 31 ACT score is not going to be in the top % of applicants for BS/MD programs…my opinion.
I just looked at UConns combined BS/MD program. It says to be considered…applicants must have at least a 3.5 gpa and a 29 on the ACT.
Note the word “considered.” I assume these are the minimum required stats…but those who are actually accepted have higher. This also doesn’t exclude you from the mcats…they require a specific percentile on the test.
UConn’s BS/MD isn’t a guaranteed admission program. There are lots of conditions that program participants need to meet for an actual med school admission–including a minimum GPA, minimum MCAT score, required EC participation and passing an interview senior year. (Interviews can wash a kid out the program even if they meet all the other requirements–no explanation required.) The program also requires participants to surrender their right to apply to other programs. (Applying out voids their admission.)
She will be paying OOS rates for med school. (UConn SOM’s OOS tuition–that’s tuition only, not total COA-- is currently $72k/year. I can guarantee it’ll be higher 4 years from now. )
Think hard before committing to this path.
Also as @thumper1 an @twogirls mentioned your daughter meets the minimum stats threshold for consideration. It doesn’t mean she will be strong contender for a program admission.