How does out-of-State tuition effect an Athletic Scholarship in Softball? If a college is giving a .5 scholarship how does the NCAA view that when an in-state athlete who is getting a .5 is being given less money?
What does fully funded mean?
Do non-athletic Academic scholarships (whether institutional or outside of the institution) count toward the athletic scholarship? Ex: Would it raise the .5 to a .75 (if the academic scholarship equates to .25 of COA)?
1)I’m not sure how the schools do the accounting for the instate/OOS, but it still works out that the coaches give out the correct number of scholarships to meet the NCAA limit, even if the dollars given are not the same.
Fully funded means the coach gets the number of NCAA allowed scholarships x the tuition, fees, room and board, books, ex., 12 x $50k. Many schools cannot fully fund the teams so even though the NCAA allows 12 x $50k or $600k, the school only gives the coach $300k for scholarship money.
Athletes can qualify for merit scholarships from the schools or outside if they meet the NCAA requirements of h.s. gpa OR SAT/ACT score OR class rank. Those funds do not count toward the team limits unless they are need based from the school or they are awarded by an outside organization based on sports skills of the student. An athlete can also stack federal or state need based aid, and outside merit aid too. You shouldn’t say you are getting a 75% scholarship because each portion will have its own requirements to keep the scholarship. If the athlete stops playing, he can still keep the merit aid, or if the grades fall and he loses the merit scholarship, he can still be an athlete (unless the grades really fall). To the paying parent, it seems like a 75% scholarship, but it’s really a 50% and a 25% one.
Some schools make the student choose either a merit scholarship or an athletic one. The NCAA says the student can accept both, but the school doesn’t stack. There also can be restrictions on the merit scholarships if there is a need component to the award.
Thank you. So the individual school administration sets the dollar amount. A school that is fully funded gets all 12 x COA … but what if out of state tuition is $20K more than in state tuition? If COA in-State is $50 and COA for out of state is $70, then does the school get $600 or $840? What if said school wanted ALL out of state athletes?
1)AFAIK, the NCAA is concerned with percentages in equivalency sports, not the dollar amount for purposes of counting allowable scholarships. In that sense, a 50% scholarship to an in state and out of state student counts the same for compliance purposes.
2)Fully funded means that the athletic department is committing to fund the maximum number of scholarships permitted under NCAA rules for that sport.
3)@twoiniandone knows this stuff better than most here, but as I understand it, as long as the merit aid is available to all students and not just athletes, it can stack with athletic aid. But either way, the academic award and the athletic award are separate.
That would be entirely up to the school and how it allocates its budget for athletic aid. The school doesn’t “get” any money. I am not sure how much if at all an AD’s budget is impacted because a particular coach hands out more or fewer scholarships to out of state students. It is not like the AD is actually paying the tuition. It is all an accounting function. That is why the NCAA doesn’t care about the dollar amount. It is not real money to the school.
Texas, for example, fully funds all teams in all sports. The head count sports are easy, everyone gets a full COA scholarship because Texas also gives the stipend. For a equivalency sport, an OOS student would get 30% of tuition or whatever. If the coach has 10 scholaships to give, he might get $200k if all on team are instate, or $230 if some are oos. He can’t go over the 10 total scholarships. The athletic dept figures it out. It’s actually pretty hard to find out if the team is fully funded or not unless the school posts it, like Texas, or if the coach blabs. At some schools the women’s teams are fully funded to comply it Title IX.
My d’s coach can give 9.9 scholarships by ncar rules. There are two different tuition prices at her school, but it really doesn’t matter because the team isn’t fully funded. I think the coach has a certain $$ amount and divides it up as she wants to. I know the first year some got $20k and everyone got at least $2k. It didn’t matter if you were STEM (the extra $2k)
For the merit not counting against the team total, there are some grants that if everyone gets them, then the athlete can too under the same terms. Ex., at daughter’s school if you visit before getting accepted,you get $1000 per year. No gpa required, etc. For true merit scholarships, the school has to use the same qualifications for athletes as everyone else, and there are some NCAA rules too. For D1, it is a hs gpa of 3.5 OR an ACT of 28 (I think) or class rank of 10%.
The school can give need based aid to athletes but then it counts against the team total, so why would a coach do that?
Re: partial for oos, I’ve talked to athletes for whom the partial was a percentage of the total oos cost (tuition plus room and board) and others for whom the partial was a percentage of oos tuition, with room and board covered. @twoinanddone@Ohiodad51 could that be correct? I assume such things can vary by institution but I would assume the NCAA accounting would be different for those two situations.
I think it could go either way, @politeperson. The ‘Grant in Aid’ which is the document outlines the scholarship can have all the money split across the categories, like Books $700, Room and Board $2000, Tuition $5000. It could also have % on each line, so if it said Tuition 30%, I’d think that was for instate or out of state, whichever the student needed.
The only way to know if the coach is awarding $6000 for instate tuition or $25k for OOS is to ask.
I agree with @twoinanddone about asking what dollar amount is being awarded. The only way to be sure what the coach means is to ask clear questions until you get the information you are after. I would not hesitate to do so.
As far as the NCAA is concerned, the accounting is the same. It is all about fractions adding up to the allowed amount for a particular sport at a particular institution. FWIW, I believe a full scholarship is defined as covering tuition, room, board, fees, books and in some cases a stipend. So a kid in a non head count sport who is offered a scholarship that covers 50% of tuition may in reality only be a counter for 25% of one allowed scholarship. Does that make sense?
The dollar amounts are meaningless to pretty much everybody but the student and the family. You have to remember that no actual money is changing hands (excluding the stipend amount if that is awarded by the school). The college is just foregoing collecting a certain amount of tuition, etc from an athlete that they could theoretically get from filling that seat in the class with another student.