<p>If he is super-advanced in math (will complete post-calculus-BC math by high school graduation) and wants to continue studying math with the possibility of majoring in it, schools with good graduate programs in math should be favored because super-advanced in math students are more likely to exhaust the math offerings at an undergraduate-only school (these students tend to want to take graduate level math courses if they are math majors).</p>
<p>Possibly consider University of Minnesota - Twin Cities as a school to check if it is a safety? Has a strong math department, a wide variety of other subjects and majors available, and is relatively low cost for an out of state public school.</p>
<p>Emeraldkitty, Swarthmore honors students have these exams with faculty members all throughout their honors preparations. To quote the school, “The college believes that the surest test of learning is to be able to enter into a dialogue not only with fellow students and teachers but also with outside experts.” So they fly in top scholars from around the world. Obviously all of the world’s top scholars in every topic are not located all in one place.</p>
<p>SAT 2330 (took once) CR 730, M800, W800
ACT 36 (took once)
PSAT 134 (so should be a NMF)
SAT Subject : Math II 800, US History 800 , taking Chemistry in June and possibly another one if needed.
AP through sophomore year: Calc BC (5), Physics B (5), Biology (5) Statistics (5) Music Theory (5), USH (5),
AP this year - Chemistry, Economy x 2, Euro History, English Literature,
AP planned for senior year - Spanish, Government, Psychology, World History
Full IB coursework
College courses: Multivariable Calc (A), Calc Based Physics - full year (A), taking Linear Algebra this summer.
EC - violin(14 years) and piano - no orchestra, Eagle scout, on state ARML team since 8th grade, highest AIME score was 7 - no USAMO, multiple state and school math awards, he has been actually awarded a summer math camp in Europe this coming August (!), brought physics olympiad, Mandelbrot and Math League to school and organized those competitions. Varsity Crew x 3 years- participated in Head of the Charles last fall and heading to out of state regionals this week - stroke seat in our state first varsity boat although he is not good enough to be recruited. His huge EC is moviemaking - has several state high school awards including a couple of first places, one of his commercials run in state movie theaters for a month. He even appeared on live TV because of this commercial winning a state contest.
Volunteering - around 40 hours x 2 years in World Archery Cup, some volunteering as DJ, will be volunteering this summer in a science museum + NHS hours
Work - works at a private tutoring company 3 hrs/week junior/senior year, also tutors privately. He is also a web designer and sole strategists in an internet company started by his uncle. Many hours devoted to this. Occasional stints as DJ.
He composes and records his own music - Techno
Spanish, which he is learning at school, is his third language.</p>
<p>If everything is as planned, by the end of HS he will have:
English - 4 years
Math - 5 years
Spanish - 4 years (not counting MS)
Science - 7 years
Social Studies - 4 years
15 or 16 AP tests, none of them self study.</p>
<p>I am sure I have forgotten something, but here is basically his current resume.
Does it change your answers to my question?</p>
<p>@Bovertine - Kelowna is actually a beautiful city in British Columbia, Canada. On the lake and 30 min. from ski slopes ! I would love to retire there. They have an airport!</p>
<p>I don’t think he is interested in math. Maybe as a minor, but doubt it. Most likely a science major with an economy/psychology/cinematic arts major. But he does not know!
He is a strong math student (AP Calc BC as freshman) and very good problem solver (he was on state Mathcounts team) but is not crazy about math.
So the challenge is to pick a college and possible majors/minors that will give him the most choices when he graduates. He is not thinking about going into medicine, but who knows 5 years down the road? Today I think medicine will be too boring, he needs something more creative.</p>
<p>@HImom - the problem does not lie in the fact that he does not know what each discipline is all about, the problem is that his interests are so wide and he is really good in pretty much anything he tries. Take for example rowing - this kids does not look athletic, was always turned off by team sports (tried several team and individual). Suddenly he discovers crew and within 6 months becomes one of the strongest on the state team.</p>
<p>@ucbalumnus - will look at Minnesota, thanks!</p>
<p>@swattiechick - will look more closely at Swathmore but honestly, I don’t think liberal arts is the answer. Never thought about it, to be honest. What are his chances of getting into Wall Street if he chooses so? </p>
<p>Georgetown is not very good in fin aid, is it?</p>
<p>For wall street, recruitment is based largely on the prestige of the undergrad school - HYP, Dartmouth, Wharton, Duke, MIT, Stanford. NYU Stern, UChicago, and Northwestern would also do the job. </p>
<p>Well, it looks like he is in good shape to get into at least a few of the aforementioned schools.</p>
<p>Based on that, he will likely fit better academically at schools with strong graduate programs in math and physics, given his super-advanced state in those subjects. He looks like the kind of student who is likely to want to take graduate courses and do graduate level research as an undergraduate. While undergraduate-only LACs have their advantages, they are likely to be too limiting for him if he wishes to continue in math and/or physics.</p>
<p>For him, completing a math or physics major may not actually consume too much of his college schedule (since it looks like he will complete most or all of his lower division course work in those subjects before graduating high school), so if he has varied interests, he may have plenty of room for a second (or even third) major in an unrelated subject, so schools with strong programs in many subjects would be desirable. Or maybe he will just want to sample courses in many subjects. In either case, it is best to avoid schools which will be limiting (e.g. Caltech, Georgia Tech).</p>
<p>Hah, cross-posted #28 with #26 indicating not that much interest in majoring in math.</p>
<p>Would it be correct to assume that the science he is most interested in is physics? Given his advanced state there, completing a physics major would not take up too much time, and leave plenty of room for a second major or lots of course work in economics, psychology, and/or cinematic arts. Math is an important supporting subject for both physics and economics, so his excellence in math would do him well if he majors in physics and/or economics.</p>
<p>As noted above, elite investment banks like to recruit in elite schools like Harvard, MIT, etc… Of course, these are “reach for everyone” schools.</p>
<p>Caltech has undergraduate humanities concentrations in English literature, history, philosophy, and history and philosophy of science. Social studies concentrations available are economics, business economics and management, and political science.</p>
<p>*No, I have not tried the calculator yet. I am afraid to *</p>
<p>You need to try the NPCs on the various schools’ sites so you know what you’re dealing with and not spinning your wheets. If the NPCs at non-HYPS came back with a “family contribution” of - say $40k - what would you do?</p>
<p>Even though your son has great stats, you can’t count on him getting into HYPS…and just casting a wide net into seas that will mostly expect you to pay lots will give you what??? You could end up with a wide net of acceptances that aren’t affordable.</p>
<p>How much do you think you can pay each year?</p>
<p>At this point in my life I would like to move back to Europe, where all the admissions are number based and are pretty much predictable…
I really have a love/hate relationship with the US system, but I am sure I am not the only one…</p>
<p>Most students do not have those subjects in high school. Some knowledge of CS may be desirable preparation for college CS courses. If he has taken linear algebra, he may want to also take differential equations to avoid partially repeating a course, since many colleges combined linear algebra and differential equations into one course.</p>
<p>But run the net price calculators at each school to get an idea of where the finances are for each school.</p>
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