<p>I would like to know, in your opinion, what stats a hooked applicant should have. Including the ACT. (Legacy)</p>
<p>In my opinion, that’s kind of BS that you’re aiming lower just because you have a hook. Aim for the same stats that a non-hooked applicant would have.</p>
<p>Of course I am aiming for the highest, but the way it’s looking right now I am growing more and more dubious of my success.</p>
<p>Apply and see. What have you got to lose other than the fee? Nothing ventured, nothing gained.</p>
<p>It depends on major, ECs, etc.</p>
<p>I would say a hooked candidate should be just as good as unhooked candidates. I’m sure the adcoms would agree, given that the reject 90+% of applicants.</p>
<p>Not sure if it’s the same as Princeton (I assume it would be similar), but certainly the Harvard Dean of Admissions has said before that in fact legacy applicants are stronger, on the whole, than non-legacy applicants. Of course quite a few legacy admits will have lower stats (often because the family has made some sort of contribution too), but his reasoning was quite sound - I mean, if you grow up in an educated family with more exposure to the same sort of things that made your parents students at whichever college, there’s certainly every chance you’ll have very solid qualifications.</p>
<p>I have no idea the precise stats required in this case, but they would not be very different on the whole from normal applicants. Just aim for your highest and see what happens.</p>
<p>Supposedly being a legacy gives you an advantage and invisible boost, but the fact is, you still have to be awesome. It makes me really nervous.</p>
<p>i dunno, but i would say that your “hook” is an advantage with sat i 2100+ (not quite sure about act but around 32??), gpa 3.8+, solid ecs (leadership and passion) and good essay+ recs…
what EphemeralEternal wrote is probs true, but i don´t think that it has an impact on the admission as such, i don´t think that they´ll expect you to be a stronger applicant.
in general, hooks like legacy etc become an advantage when you have the same stats as most applicants, and nothing that makes you stand out (assume app a and b have same gpa, scores, similar ecs, etc, but app b has legacy, they´ll most likely take b…)
good luck ^^</p>
<p>^I think she got it right on. Need at least a combination of 2100 and a 3.8. Maybe a little higher SAT can make up for a little lower GPA, or vice versa.</p>
<p>You definitely will need to show strong extracurricular activities that show passion regardless of the hook.</p>
<p>Legacy is hardly a hook. Given the socio-economic advantages and educational background generally expected from legacy applicants, they may actually be held to a higher standard. </p>
<p>One legacy I know had a perfect score, another got 1590 on the old scale… the EC opportunities afforded to them were just as phenomenal.</p>
<p>I suppose even a legacy with a perfect SAT and solid EC’s still isn’t guaranteed to get in. Due to mixed replies I guess it will only help me a little bit. The original reason I made this post is that I always thought legacies had a 30% acceptance rate (assuming the app. is good).</p>
<p>Legacies do have a 30%ish acceptance rate, but correlation doesn’t necessarily mean causation. Part of why legacies are so coveted is that they often are more qualified.</p>
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<p>I’d say if you’re a legacy with perfect SATs and solid EC’s (and an okay GPA), you’re pretty much guaranteed admission.</p>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>But that number is not very large. 
That’s basically like saying if you’re a really good (but not amazing) candidate with truly exceptional essays, you’ll get in. True, but that number is pretty small.</p>
<p>I never said it was large lol.</p>
<p>At the Ivies and other selective schools, the primary advantage of being a legacy is that you will get a more careful look, and they’ll be looking for a reason to say yes. Since they have to say no to many highly qualified candidates, that’s an important edge. But a more careful look won’t help unless your record makes you competitive with the students they’re admitting. The admit rate for legacies is a bit higher, but most legacies still get rejected.</p>
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<p>~3.5 times higher is “a bit” higher? </p>
<p>Most 2400 SAT scorers get rejected too, does that mean they get no advantage?</p>
<h2>Here is from Yale legacy admission few year ago:</h2>
<p>Q: About 14 percent of last year’s entering freshmen were children or grandchildren of alumni of the college, graduate school, or professional schools. The admissions rate for legacies is about 30 percent – three times the rate for non-legacies.</p>
<p>A: It’s important to understand that being a legacy does not guarantee admission to Yale College. But the pool of legacy applicants is substantially stronger than the average of the rest of the pool. The grades and test scores of the legacies we admit are higher than the average of the rest of the admitted class, and the legacies that matriculate achieve higher grades at Yale than non-legacy students with the same high school grades and test scores.</p>
<h2>When you stop to think about it, this isn’t so surprising. Legacy students are coming from highly educated households, where books, reading, and cultural life are prized. They tend to be more exposed to and more serious about intellectual matters. We are admitting very strong students as legacies.</h2>
<p>Here is the link of the article:</p>
<p>[Yale</a> Alumni Magazine: Rick Levin Q&A](<a href=“http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/2004_11/q_a.html]Yale”>http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/2004_11/q_a.html)</p>
<p>So an average stats legacy would have what chances?</p>
<p>0%, isn’t it obvious? The average legacy gets rejected.</p>
<p>100% of the average applicants also get rejected. Only the top 10% get accepted…</p>